Stock dampers on the BRZ are made by Showa. Same for FRS? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

mrha · 10-19-2012, 12:48 PM

When I lowered my car I noticed the stock struts were made by Showa which as many of you know produces the suspension pieces for Spoon Sports etc. I was more than pleasantly surprised when seeing this.

Then I read the BRZ and FRS have different dampers between the two. Are the FRS struts made by Showa as well?

Racecomp Engineering · 10-19-2012, 12:53 PM

Many of us (RCE, eibach, I think dwx) have tested the two shocks to be essentially identical. Yes both made by showa and pretty good for an OEM strut

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- Andrew

D1cker · 10-19-2012, 12:57 PM

I believe the dampers to be the same, just the spring rates are different.

GTM_Challenge · 10-19-2012, 01:08 PM

Showa also makes the oem s2000 dampers

Not surprised Toyota/Subaru turned to them for the stock setup

No Limit Motorsport · 10-19-2012, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTM_Challenge

Showa also makes the oem s2000 dampers

Not surprised Toyota/Subaru turned to them for the stock setup

They also make AWESOME motocross suspension.

chutrain · 10-19-2012, 02:07 PM

Surprised they used Showa. I would have thought they would go with something lower end
like the KYB or Tokicos.

Racecomp Engineering · 10-19-2012, 02:25 PM

04-07 STI used to be KYB and they switched to showa for 08+ STI. Those were a big improvement over the KYBs. When Subaru wants a decent quality sporty shock that's what they use now and we're glad. And of course Bilstein japan for special edition stuff.

- Andrew

RYU · 10-19-2012, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Many of us (RCE, eibach, I think dwx) have tested the two shocks to be essentially identical. Yes both made by showa and pretty good for an OEM strut

.

- Andrew

Agree!

Andrew - Have you guys heard of Koni or Bilstein making a set for our car? I liked my 3 setting adjustable (rebound only) Konis on my S2k before.

Racecomp Engineering · 10-19-2012, 02:31 PM

Turn in concepts will be testing koni yellows with our RCE yellow springs very soon.

- Andrew

chutrain · 10-19-2012, 02:32 PM

I believe Koni is in the process and should have something in the next couple of weeks. Hope Ground Control will have something with a pairing with Konis.

GTM_Challenge · 10-19-2012, 02:44 PM

I've heard the initial konis will be inserts...

If I talk to Lee at Koni again soon, Ill try and get as much out of him as I can. Might not be until SEMA though - which by then they will probably have the product announced already.

xwd · 10-19-2012, 02:50 PM

It's around in other threads, but GC has a setup paired with Koni inserts coming out very soon. It's basically a coilover since they are using their own front strut housings with the Koni inserts and their sleeve kit. Showa is a big OE manufacturer for lots of brands.

There was a Koni thread within the last couple days, they are definitely working on things but the fronts will be inserts.

Racecomp Engineering · 10-19-2012, 02:51 PM

I'd be surprised (but happy) if koni do anything other than inserts for the front. Bilstein will eventually have something but they take a while. We are going to push them.

- Andrew

RYU · 10-19-2012, 03:22 PM

Exciting updates! I personally would love something with some rebound adjustability. Not too much ask right?

10-19-2012, 12:48 PM	#1
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D1cker Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: B9 S4/ND2 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 522 Thanks: 190 Thanked 182 Times in 106 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I believe the dampers to be the same, just the spring rates are different.

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GTM_Challenge Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: On track Location: Chicago Posts: 527 Thanks: 120 Thanked 285 Times in 166 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Showa also makes the oem s2000 dampers Not surprised Toyota/Subaru turned to them for the stock setup

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Racecomp Engineering Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2016 BRZ, 2012 Paris Di2 & 2018 STI Location: Severn, MD Posts: 5,517 Thanks: 3,541 Thanked 7,412 Times in 3,032 Posts Mentioned: 310 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	04-07 STI used to be KYB and they switched to showa for 08+ STI. Those were a big improvement over the KYBs. When Subaru wants a decent quality sporty shock that's what they use now and we're glad. And of course Bilstein japan for special edition stuff. - Andrew

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GTM_Challenge Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: On track Location: Chicago Posts: 527 Thanks: 120 Thanked 285 Times in 166 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've heard the initial konis will be inserts... If I talk to Lee at Koni again soon, Ill try and get as much out of him as I can. Might not be until SEMA though - which by then they will probably have the product announced already.

10-19-2012, 02:50 PM	#12
xwd Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 DGM Subaru BRZ (Subie #9) Location: ATL, US Posts: 2,667 Thanks: 123 Thanked 861 Times in 552 Posts Mentioned: 32 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's around in other threads, but GC has a setup paired with Koni inserts coming out very soon. It's basically a coilover since they are using their own front strut housings with the Koni inserts and their sleeve kit. Showa is a big OE manufacturer for lots of brands. There was a Koni thread within the last couple days, they are definitely working on things but the fronts will be inserts.

10-19-2012, 02:51 PM	#13
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RYU Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: really slow... Location: Los Angeles (SGV) Posts: 737 Thanks: 340 Thanked 253 Times in 145 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Exciting updates! I personally would love something with some rebound adjustability. Not too much ask right?

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