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mrha 10-19-2012 12:48 PM

Stock dampers on the BRZ are made by Showa. Same for FRS?
 
When I lowered my car I noticed the stock struts were made by Showa which as many of you know produces the suspension pieces for Spoon Sports etc. I was more than pleasantly surprised when seeing this.

Then I read the BRZ and FRS have different dampers between the two. Are the FRS struts made by Showa as well?

Racecomp Engineering 10-19-2012 12:53 PM

Many of us (RCE, eibach, I think dwx) have tested the two shocks to be essentially identical. Yes both made by showa and pretty good for an OEM strut :).

- Andrew

D1cker 10-19-2012 12:57 PM

I believe the dampers to be the same, just the spring rates are different.

GTM_Challenge 10-19-2012 01:08 PM

Showa also makes the oem s2000 dampers :) Not surprised Toyota/Subaru turned to them for the stock setup :)

No Limit Motorsport 10-19-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GTM_Challenge (Post 507697)
Showa also makes the oem s2000 dampers :) Not surprised Toyota/Subaru turned to them for the stock setup :)

They also make AWESOME motocross suspension.

chutrain 10-19-2012 02:07 PM

Surprised they used Showa. I would have thought they would go with something lower end
like the KYB or Tokicos.

Racecomp Engineering 10-19-2012 02:25 PM

04-07 STI used to be KYB and they switched to showa for 08+ STI. Those were a big improvement over the KYBs. When Subaru wants a decent quality sporty shock that's what they use now and we're glad. And of course Bilstein japan for special edition stuff.

- Andrew

RYU 10-19-2012 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 507648)
Many of us (RCE, eibach, I think dwx) have tested the two shocks to be essentially identical. Yes both made by showa and pretty good for an OEM strut :).

- Andrew

Agree!

Andrew - Have you guys heard of Koni or Bilstein making a set for our car? I liked my 3 setting adjustable (rebound only) Konis on my S2k before.

Racecomp Engineering 10-19-2012 02:31 PM

Turn in concepts will be testing koni yellows with our RCE yellow springs very soon. :)

- Andrew

chutrain 10-19-2012 02:32 PM

I believe Koni is in the process and should have something in the next couple of weeks. Hope Ground Control will have something with a pairing with Konis.

GTM_Challenge 10-19-2012 02:44 PM

I've heard the initial konis will be inserts...

If I talk to Lee at Koni again soon, Ill try and get as much out of him as I can. Might not be until SEMA though - which by then they will probably have the product announced already.

xwd 10-19-2012 02:50 PM

It's around in other threads, but GC has a setup paired with Koni inserts coming out very soon. It's basically a coilover since they are using their own front strut housings with the Koni inserts and their sleeve kit. Showa is a big OE manufacturer for lots of brands.

There was a Koni thread within the last couple days, they are definitely working on things but the fronts will be inserts.

Racecomp Engineering 10-19-2012 02:51 PM

I'd be surprised (but happy) if koni do anything other than inserts for the front. Bilstein will eventually have something but they take a while. We are going to push them.

- Andrew

RYU 10-19-2012 03:22 PM

Exciting updates! I personally would love something with some rebound adjustability. Not too much ask right?


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