Talk me out of buying a 2018 BRZ limited

[alphasaur]

Hello,

Seriously looking at an 18' limited in WRB. I currently own a tuned 06 Mazdaspeed 6 (getting sold to a friend), 16' Jetta and 17' Sportwagen. I would be trading the Jetta in (owe 13750, offered 13k for it. Was 5 negative when purchased so I'm happy with this, other dealers offered ~10-12k) and the price they offered on the limited brz was 26825, plus the difference in tax title license. I told them if they give me 13.5 for the jetta I'd take it.

Thoughts? My car history: Stock EP3 Si -> Speed 3 tuned on e85-> 91 miata, kept NA for 3ish years, supercharged for a year-> Big turbo Speed6 (hit and totaled)-> Big Turbo EP3 SI-> Focus ST.

While I like speed, my favorite car was probably my miata. Even stock it felt peppy enough rolling through the gears, supercharging was fun (still not fast, maybe 150whp. I'd keep up with s2000s). I also thought the ep3 was peppy enough.

The BRZ would be a daily, I have a 25-75 mile commute daily, all windy back roads.

Thoughts? Anyone regret buying a new brz? When I started shopping I was looking at 20k lightly used premiums, but now I want a 2017 plus in WRB.

[Kimsey47]

After having bought new (and eventually traded in on my STI), I would 1000% recommend buying a BRZ used. The depreciation hit wasn't worth it. I loved the BRZ, but didn't love how much value it lost.

[8RZ]

No, buy it!

[chipmunk]

If I could go back in time to January 2016 and redo the whole thing, I would still buy the BRZ (but only with heated seats this time). I sometimes have second thoughts about my BRZ, but this is the most fun car I can afford with my budget.
EDIT: But mind you, these cars do have issues with manual transmissions. And a recent potential recall about valve springs came up as well. They are not bulletproof even in stock form.

Just throwing a thought out there.... Have you considered a used Lotus or even an Alfa 4C....?

[Semiihcircle]

LoL NO!!!! they are so much fun to drive! they are not the fastest, but lots of fun when you know... you make a turn!!!! because for some reason people like going fast in straight lines

[Tcoat]

There are benefits of buying new.
There are different benefits of buying used.
Which set of benefits are you most interested in?
End of story.

[atomicalex]

I did and I am super happy with it. Granted, I was looking for exactly what it is, so there is that. I got the PP. I love it.

LOL stock AND points. How?

[Code Monkey]

@alphasaur; go get one and maybe we can recreate the homoeroticism of the good old days of the mazdaspeed forums circle jerk glory.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey

@alphasaur; go get one and maybe we can recreate the homoeroticism of the good old days of the mazdaspeed forums circle jerk glory.

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[HachiRokuX]

I’d highly recommend letting someone else take the depreciation hit and getting a lightly used 2017 in manual.

I got mine new and regret it, it’s not exactly the greatest value at 24-30k brand new for the base model, especially if you want to mod down the line.


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[ZionsWrath]

All cars depreciate fast. If you don't mind "losing" half the money in a couple years then do it. But consider most people probably shouldn't buy new. An alarming number of new car loans are 6+ years.

I remember when Subaru released a brochure about the BRZ when it first came out it stated the expected customer. One of the attributes they thought the buyer would have is an income of $90,000. Not sure how they came up with this, maybe they thought it would be a single guys second car. Something to consider.

[Tcoat]

Where the Hell do you guys think all the used ones come from? Every single thread on the question (and there are piles) always say "buy used". Then when somebody asks "is this used one OK" the majority reply "no it is crap find another that is better and cheaper".
I repeat - There are good points and bad points to each. Pick your priorities and go from there.
But...
Keep in mind if nobody buys new then there will be no used ones. and they will just stop making them completely. The used ones that exist will be in short supply and the prices will go up accordingly. This means you will pay almost what they cost new while you could still get one. Supply and demand rules the world of commerce.

[alphasaur]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey

@alphasaur; go get one and maybe we can recreate the homoeroticism of the good old days of the mazdaspeed forums circle jerk glory.

HOLY FUCK.

Hi! You being her just added a ton of persuasion to the get it argument

[alphasaur]

Originally Posted by chipmunk

If I could go back in time to January 2016 and redo the whole thing, I would still buy the BRZ (but only with heated seats this time). I sometimes have second thoughts about my BRZ, but this is the most fun car I can afford with my budget.
EDIT: But mind you, these cars do have issues with manual transmissions. And a recent potential recall about valve springs came up as well. They are not bulletproof even in stock form.

Just throwing a thought out there.... Have you considered a used Lotus or even an Alfa 4C....?

I'd love an alfa or lotus, but this is going to be a daily driver and will be driven in the snow. Don't think I can convince myself to do that to a 4c.

In regards to reliability issues, I thought the synchro issues were more 13' my? I haven't seen too many with newer years and from what I understand transmission is stronger with 17' +

The recent spring recall gives me reason to hesitate, but tons of brz have made it to 100k+? Most people I've spoken with seem to agree they're near bullet proof

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by zionswrath

All cars depreciate fast. If you don't mind "losing" half the money in a couple years then do it. But consider most people probably shouldn't buy new. An alarming number of new car loans are 6+ years.

I remember when Subaru released a brochure about the BRZ when it first came out it stated the expected customer. One of the attributes they thought the buyer would have is an income of $90,000. Not sure how they came up with this, maybe they thought it would be a single guys second car. Something to consider.

I've always lost money on cars, and I've owned more than I should. It's my hobby. I still save a pretty decent amount and put a decent amount into retirement so

Originally Posted by HachiRokuX

I’d highly recommend letting someone else take the depreciation hit and getting a lightly used 2017 in manual.

I got mine new and regret it, it’s not exactly the greatest value at 24-30k brand new for the base model, especially if you want to mod down the line.


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Tried finding a 17 used, found two in WRB for 21ish k for premiums. Both sold within a day of inquiry. I was quoted 24.7k for a 18 premium, I don't think the depreciation is THAT bad (4k for 1 year?)