Emergency Stop Signal (ESS) activation?

[anthonybrz]

So I came across a video on YouTube the other day showing the BRZ. I noticed that when the driver slammed the brakes, the hazards quickly flashed.

It would be a great feature to have on BRZ's in the states but it's not something that we have activated. I did notice the BRZ in the video is from Wales. I did a ton of Googling but didn't find anything for our cars.

If anyone knows about how to activate this feature, please share! It'll be greatly appreciated! The link to the video is below. Go to 2:27 in the video to see what I'm talking about.

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[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by anthonybrz

I did notice the BRZ in the video is from Wales.

LOL. It's not from Wales. The license plate says "New South Wales." That's a state in Australia, which would make sense since the review is for an Australian auto magazine. I would focus your research on the Australian market.

[ToySub1946]

Yes it's called >Emergency Stop Signal<

Link here to Honda of New Zealand.

https://www.honda.co.nz/technology/safety/ESS/

Possibly it's already on some new USA models as well. ??

I also find that it was proposed for Europe...in 2015...not sure if it's in effect yet ??


Some pros and cons here on Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automo...gnal_.28ESS.29

[extrashaky]

If we get this crap in the US, accidents will go up in cities like Houston where everyone tailgates because they're trying to "win" traffic and are desperate to keep anybody else from cutting in front of them. What will happen is some stupid fool on one of the big, congested interstates will be distracted by the sudden flashing light in the next lane over, slam on his brakes for no reason and cause the guy behind him (who is also tailgating) to hit him. Then the next five cars will also pile up, because they're all following too closely. Then there will be two to four additional rear-end collisions in the traffic backup that ensues.

Drivers in the US are dumb enough already. Don't distract them with pretty twinkly lights.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

If we get this crap in the US, accidents will go up in cities like Houston where everyone tailgates because they're trying to "win" traffic and are desperate to keep anybody else from cutting in front of them. What will happen is some stupid fool on one of the big, congested interstates will be distracted by the sudden flashing light in the next lane over, slam on his brakes for no reason and cause the guy behind him (who is also tailgating) to hit him. Then the next five cars will also pile up, because they're all following too closely. Then there will be two to four additional rear-end collisions in the traffic backup that ensues.

Drivers in the US are dumb enough already. Don't distract them with pretty twinkly lights.

If you can't see brake lights when they are solid I don't think you will see them any better when flashing.
I recall a long discussion on this when some guy wanted to have his third brake light flashing. The majority seemed to feel it would confuse the hell out of most people. Some of the new LED brake lights are so bright ( @johan I still have images burnt into my retinas) that solid is bad enough and flashing would be brutal.

[johan]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

If you can't see brake lights when they are solid I don't think you will see them any better when flashing.
I recall a long discussion on this when some guy wanted to have his third brake light flashing. The majority seemed to feel it would confuse the hell out of most people. Some of the new LED brake lights are so bright ( @johan I still have images burnt into my retinas) that solid is bad enough and flashing would be brutal.

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[mav1178]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

LOL. It's not from Wales. The license plate says "New South Wales."

It's like saying England and New England are the same.

I have nothing useful to add other than American drivers are stupid.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Some of the new LED brake lights are so bright... that solid is bad enough and flashing would be brutal.

I've noticed lately that all the new ambulances have these huge eight inch red LED panels mounted on the back as brake lights. Those things are brighter than the sun. I have personally observed people swerving unsafely around ambulances (just driving in traffic, not in emergency mode) to get out of the searing light, and it's only a matter of time before those lights cause an accident.

I can't understand why a coach builder of "safety" vehicles would do something that unsafe.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

I've noticed lately that all the new ambulances have these huge eight inch red LED panels mounted on the back as brake lights. Those things are brighter than the sun. I have personally observed people swerving unsafely around ambulances (just driving in traffic, not in emergency mode) to get out of the searing light, and it's only a matter of time before those lights cause an accident.

I can't understand why a coach builder of "safety" vehicles would do something that unsafe.

I have seen the same. In fact just last night I commented on it to the wife as we were stuck behind at a stop light. It was physically painful and I had to pull the visor down and peak underneath it. I fully understand they need to be seen but when it is so bright it causes other issues they have gone too far.
I half joked about johan's tails (stock) on his 17 but both Ultra and I saw just how bright they were and noted they actually hurt when the signal or brake lights came on. The last thing you want people doing is looking away in discomfort every time you hit the brakes.

[Gunman]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

If you can't see brake lights when they are solid I don't think you will see them any better when flashing.
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I wired the rear fog to flash as a brake light, just because I could

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Gunman

I wired the rear fog to flash as a brake light, just because I could

But it stays on with the brakes right? It doesn't flash on and off? Your actual brake lights are all solid?

[g e]

Originally Posted by mav1178

It's like saying England and New England are the same.

I have nothing useful to add other than American drivers are stupid.

You are being generous....

[Gunman]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

But it stays on with the brakes right? It doesn't flash on and off? Your actual brake lights are all solid?

The 3 standard brake lights are still oem, constant on. The low rear fog/triangle light flashes the entire time while the brakes are applied.

Note, I changed the circuit, so the "tail" function is disabled when the brakes are on, so the flash is more dramatic, like the first part of the video.

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[Capt Spaulding]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

But it stays on with the brakes right? It doesn't flash on and off? Your actual brake lights are all solid?

Back in my motorcycling daze, a woman rear ended me at a light. Low speed, no damage (other than to my blood pressure and her ear drums), she just wasn't paying attention. At the time I had three bikes. For all the ones I used on the street I bought small (1"x3") LED strobes. I set them up so that when the brake lights activated, these guys flashed at 4 cycles per second. They were also bright. Each housing had 3 multi-watt red LEDS. When cycling they were painful to stare at.

In the 8 or so years I ran them that way my conclusion was that people NOTICED them. When I hit the brakes, cars behind me did, too. Much more briskly than before. In addition, they didn't crowd me at lights. That, too was a change. Before the strobes. drivers were like dogs - first thing they'd do at a light was try to sniff your butt.