Are the 2017's quieter than the older ones? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

TheCanadian · 09-23-2017, 12:42 AM

I've seen some information on this forum that apparently Subaru revised the sound deadening inside the car? I searched through the long document and all i found was they revamped the intake and the differential mounts to reduce nvh.

Is that all that was done? I assume it would be a bit louder with the shorter gearing the manuals if not practically the same as before...

Andrew025 · 09-23-2017, 01:05 AM

I can't really tell a difference...

Tcoat · 09-23-2017, 02:47 AM

Although they increased the size by a fair bit for the diff changes it probably just breaks even with the increase in the noise from the diff changes (as noted) so noise level stayed the same even with the changes.

Spuds · 09-23-2017, 03:28 AM

Didn't they also change tires, or was that earlier? That makes quite a bit of difference as well.

Tcoat · 09-23-2017, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spuds

Didn't they also change tires, or was that earlier? That makes quite a bit of difference as well.

Same tires.

spike021 · 09-23-2017, 03:57 AM

Can't really compare since I don't have lots of seat time in 13-16 but my 17 is definitely not bad, and certainly not as bad as some complaints make the sound out to be.

nikitopo · 09-23-2017, 07:02 AM

You'll have less noise from the road, but the exhaust in the '17 MT is louder (higher flow intake & exhaust manifold).

TofuJoe · 09-23-2017, 12:55 PM

I drove a '13 for a couple of years and now have a '17. There is less road noise. My wife thinks so, too. Mind you, there's still plenty of road noise / this ain't no German car.

I got the performance package and the ride quality of the '17 is a huge improvement over the '13.

chaoskaze · 09-23-2017, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Although they increased the size by a fair bit for the diff changes it probably just breaks even with the increase in the noise from the diff changes (as noted) so noise level stayed the same even with the changes.

Op, just changed the tire to something like pilot super sport, the ride will get really comfy and quiet.

Oh ya and there is this subframe rubber ring shape bushing that subaru japan sells .....that was in the US dealer manual but is never in our car.

get one from japanpart, that thing makes ride more quiet and i think they probably just slap those on the new car, just additional isolation between the subframe and chassis.

TheCanadian · 09-23-2017, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Although they increased the size by a fair bit for the diff changes it probably just breaks even with the increase in the noise from the diff changes (as noted) so noise level stayed the same even with the changes.

Looks like i misread this document. If I am seeing correctly the entire world gets change 2, while change 1 is limited to Japan!

Tcoat · 09-23-2017, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCanadian

Looks like i misread this document. If I am seeing correctly the entire world gets change 2, while change 1 is limited to Japan!

Yep
The whole thing is a bit confusing as to who got what. Have to really look at the fine print since the variations can be considerable.
I didn't check the interior section but believe there was more soundproofing added in there as well.

~el~jefe~ · 09-25-2017, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike021

Can't really compare since I don't have lots of seat time in 13-16 but my 17 is definitely not bad, and certainly not as bad as some complaints make the sound out to be.

my 2017 brz manual is not noisy at all at 80mph. Everyone talks at normal volume and reports a relaxing trip.

spike021 · 09-25-2017, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~el~jefe~

my 2017 brz manual is not noisy at all at 80mph. Everyone talks at normal volume and reports a relaxing trip.

At 80mph I have a very very slight whistle sound, maybe from the window or something. But that's about it.

Of course before I had this car I was taking the train, lightrail, or bus everywhere which were super rickety and noisy everywhere so

~el~jefe~ · 09-25-2017, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike021

At 80mph I have a very very slight whistle sound, maybe from the window or something. But that's about it.

Of course before I had this car I was taking the train, lightrail, or bus everywhere which were super rickety and noisy everywhere so

yes, I thought about this too. And many cars are not comfortable to drive at 80mph on a trip. This has smooth acceleration and can hold 80-82mph on up and down hills as you cruise. Really nice and it very stable and smooth. I can't imagine what it is like when I eventually get the Tcoat recomended AS 3+ tires next year.

09-23-2017, 01:05 AM	#2
Andrew025 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: Neptune GR86 Location: Portland Posts: 3,862 Thanks: 1,438 Thanked 3,505 Times in 1,806 Posts Mentioned: 60 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I can't really tell a difference... __________________

09-23-2017, 02:47 AM	#3
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,841 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,294 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2499 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	Although they increased the size by a fair bit for the diff changes it probably just breaks even with the increase in the noise from the diff changes (as noted) so noise level stayed the same even with the changes. Attached Images __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
2017 brz exhaust vs older exhaust	Joetheegyptian	Engine, Exhaust, Transmission	19	04-07-2019 09:26 AM
2017 Track mode on older model	Bobster	Engine, Exhaust, Transmission	17	12-03-2017 11:34 PM
'17 Parts Compatibility With Older Models	ztrevs	Cosmetic Modification (Interior/Exterior/Lighting)	23	12-30-2016 01:31 PM
Ecutek older roms	Agent_D	Software Tuning	32	05-02-2016 07:55 PM
Older model parts fit 2016?	JPRodney	Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum	7	04-27-2016 02:59 PM

09-23-2017, 03:28 AM	#4
Spuds The Dictater Join Date: Apr 2017 Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS Location: MD, USA Posts: 9,635 Thanks: 26,659 Thanked 12,685 Times in 6,286 Posts Mentioned: 88 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Didn't they also change tires, or was that earlier? That makes quite a bit of difference as well.

09-23-2017, 03:57 AM	#6
spike021 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: '17 Limited BRZ CWP w/ PP Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 5,846 Thanks: 14,219 Thanked 6,568 Times in 3,255 Posts Mentioned: 72 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Can't really compare since I don't have lots of seat time in 13-16 but my 17 is definitely not bad, and certainly not as bad as some complaints make the sound out to be.

09-23-2017, 07:02 AM	#7
nikitopo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: '15 BRZ RA Location: Greece Posts: 3,787 Thanks: 2,417 Thanked 1,947 Times in 1,263 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You'll have less noise from the road, but the exhaust in the '17 MT is louder (higher flow intake & exhaust manifold).

09-23-2017, 12:55 PM	#8
TofuJoe Ohne Titel Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 2017 BRZ PP ISM Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 684 Thanks: 1,141 Thanked 412 Times in 234 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I drove a '13 for a couple of years and now have a '17. There is less road noise. My wife thinks so, too. Mind you, there's still plenty of road noise / this ain't no German car. I got the performance package and the ride quality of the '17 is a huge improvement over the '13.

User Name		Remember Me?
Password