OEM HP Crapacy tires - what is the lowest temp? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

~el~jefe~ · 09-05-2017, 12:52 AM

I am wondering what is the lowest temperature before they become hard and dangerously crappy vs regular crappy?

I am attempting to figure out when I should buy my Sotozero Pirellis for "winter"

Ultramaroon · 09-05-2017, 01:46 AM

I'm going to get shit for this but I don't sweat it until there's snow or ice on the road. I'll probably swap my wheels when I start seeing morning frost instead of dew.

Mr.ac · 09-05-2017, 02:20 AM

Your Google fu is weak young grasshopper.

~el~jefe~ · 09-05-2017, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I'm going to get shit for this but I don't sweat it until there's snow or ice on the road. I'll probably swap my wheels when I start seeing morning frost instead of dew.

This makes sense thanxxx

Ernest72 · 09-05-2017, 06:21 PM

40F and below they start to suck. Especially cold when you first start driving.

mav1178 · 09-05-2017, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~el~jefe~

I am wondering what is the lowest temperature before they become hard and dangerously crappy vs regular crappy?

I am attempting to figure out when I should buy my Sotozero Pirellis for "winter"

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...del=Primacy+HP

"While Primacy HP tires are designed to offer reliable traction in dry and wet conditions, they are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice."

So closer to freezing...

ST185RC · 09-05-2017, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...del=Primacy+HP

"While Primacy HP tires are designed to offer reliable traction in dry and wet conditions"

LOLOL WHAT?!

Tcoat · 09-05-2017, 08:59 PM

42 degrees. You get them to freezing and they are unpredictable and dangerous.
Don't play the "I can wait one more week" game or you may get caught in the cold and things get squirrely fast.

HSUBLU · 09-05-2017, 09:16 PM

I just need to find a way to trash my brand new Primacy in the month and a half or so I have before it starts getting wonky in Oregon...

Icecreamtruk · 09-05-2017, 09:40 PM

Around 40 they slip a lot, but they are not undrivable. At around 20, they become pieces of round ice attached to your wheels.

mav1178 · 09-05-2017, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ST185RC

LOLOL WHAT?!

Reliable usually means you can drive them in a predictable fashion.

I had no issues with stock tires in pouring rain + loads of standing water on Los Angeles freeways.

-alex

~el~jefe~ · 09-05-2017, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

42 degrees. You get them to freezing and they are unpredictable and dangerous.
Don't play the "I can wait one more week" game or you may get caught in the cold and things get squirrely fast.

well. I am a big fan of Squirrels however hm.

~el~jefe~ · 09-05-2017, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178

Reliable usually means you can drive them in a predictable fashion.

I had no issues with stock tires in pouring rain + loads of standing water on Los Angeles freeways.

-alex

They are very good in the rain. Nothing at all bad about them in the rain, driving them fast and making sharp turns. The HP primacies are totally fine in the rain. I dont know why people say otherwise. Consumer reports has the brz wet braking at a really nice stopping distance too. The BRZ 2017 on stock hp primacies is very acceptable, it just is a summer tire and a bit useless for its price.

~el~jefe~ · 09-06-2017, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Icecreamtruk

Around 40 they slip a lot, but they are not undrivable. At around 20, they become pieces of round ice attached to your wheels.

jeez that sucks. Ok. I will order a set of Sotozero 3 whatever pirelli things. They look like they hit the bill for what I need. Put them on the stock rims.

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