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phatroksek · 02-15-2017, 06:58 PM

hadn't touched the car in 2 weeks, took it out today and noticed clicking while steering from backing out of my driveway. took a video of it happening at stand still.

it's pretty consistent and i can feel things vibrate... from my feet? i don't recall feeling it from the steering wheel.
my car is lowered 1" on Hotchkis springs and wearing 245/35-18.

will get under the car to see if the wheels are hitting anything and report back

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Kylebrz · 02-15-2017, 08:38 PM

Sounds like top hats are binding

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renfield90 · 02-15-2017, 11:20 PM

Do you have camber plates? Excessive camber can cause the endlinks to hit the inside wall of the wheel well which can cause odd noises if you turn the wheel far enough. Typically you'll notice the steering bind up on you though so this seems unlikely (tough to tell with that video size though - record horizontal next time!).

Could be spring coils rotating in their perch, or some friction between the spring seat and the top hat.

The other thing it could be, especially if you feel it in your feet, is the sway bar sliding left/right and binding up. The sway bar to chassis bracket is right at your feet which tends to strongly transmit any vibration in the sway bar to you.

If I were diagnosing this I'd do the following:

1. Get the front end up in the air with wheels off. Try to recreate the problem.
2. If can't recreate, use a jack to compress each suspension individually and try to recreate.
3. If still can't recreate, disconnect both front endlinks, put wheels back on and get the car on the ground, and try to recreate. If you can't, you need to look at the sway bar. If you can't, it's not the sway bar and likely the springs or top hats.

phatroksek · 04-11-2017, 10:34 AM

2 months late but finally got a chance to do some more poking around.
i don't recall where i read it... but someone suspected it was the engine under cover. turns out that they were right. all the consistent clicking creaking went away after i properly torqued the bolts down.

i loosened all the bolts this morning, anti-seized, then torqued the bolts down. these all tend to get rusty, but i also saw one bolt where the threads were not fully engaging (not completely stripped, but cannot torque down). I believe my error the last time, was that i just tightened with my battery powered impact driver and walked away, probably over torqued.

thank you for the helpful suggestions!

02-15-2017, 06:58 PM	#1
phatroksek Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Location: NJ Posts: 42 Thanks: 1 Thanked 57 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	clicking while turning hadn't touched the car in 2 weeks, took it out today and noticed clicking while steering from backing out of my driveway. took a video of it happening at stand still. it's pretty consistent and i can feel things vibrate... from my feet? i don't recall feeling it from the steering wheel. my car is lowered 1" on Hotchkis springs and wearing 245/35-18. will get under the car to see if the wheels are hitting anything and report back Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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02-15-2017, 08:38 PM	#2
Kylebrz Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Drives: 2013 subaru brz Location: ontario Posts: 72 Thanks: 34 Thanked 52 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sounds like top hats are binding Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

02-15-2017, 11:20 PM	#3
renfield90 The Stig's German cousin Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 1,071 Thanks: 140 Thanked 519 Times in 345 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Do you have camber plates? Excessive camber can cause the endlinks to hit the inside wall of the wheel well which can cause odd noises if you turn the wheel far enough. Typically you'll notice the steering bind up on you though so this seems unlikely (tough to tell with that video size though - record horizontal next time!). Could be spring coils rotating in their perch, or some friction between the spring seat and the top hat. The other thing it could be, especially if you feel it in your feet, is the sway bar sliding left/right and binding up. The sway bar to chassis bracket is right at your feet which tends to strongly transmit any vibration in the sway bar to you. If I were diagnosing this I'd do the following: 1. Get the front end up in the air with wheels off. Try to recreate the problem. 2. If can't recreate, use a jack to compress each suspension individually and try to recreate. 3. If still can't recreate, disconnect both front endlinks, put wheels back on and get the car on the ground, and try to recreate. If you can't, you need to look at the sway bar. If you can't, it's not the sway bar and likely the springs or top hats.

04-11-2017, 10:34 AM	#4
phatroksek Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: 2014 Subaru BRZ Location: NJ Posts: 42 Thanks: 1 Thanked 57 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	2 months late but finally got a chance to do some more poking around. i don't recall where i read it... but someone suspected it was the engine under cover. turns out that they were right. all the consistent clicking creaking went away after i properly torqued the bolts down. i loosened all the bolts this morning, anti-seized, then torqued the bolts down. these all tend to get rusty, but i also saw one bolt where the threads were not fully engaging (not completely stripped, but cannot torque down). I believe my error the last time, was that i just tightened with my battery powered impact driver and walked away, probably over torqued. thank you for the helpful suggestions!

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