Buying 2013 FRS that was in an accident - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Mattstermh · 06-15-2016, 04:25 PM

Guy was second owner, got the car with 2000 miles and got into a snow accident at 3000 miles. Did $9000 worth of repairs, front bumper was the main culprit, and the car now has 30,000 miles on it. I'm thinking it's fine. Anything I should be aware of?

Edit: title was clean and all work was done with official aftermarket parts at the Toyota dealer.
Need to get more information, regarding what was replaced

jasonojordan · 06-15-2016, 04:28 PM

How is it titled. Who did the work. Detailed list of what was replaced and why.

Mattstermh · 06-15-2016, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jasonojordan

How is it titled. Who did the work. Detailed list of what was replaced and why.

Updated first post: clean title, authorized Toyota dealer did the work. Need to get the service records.

Mattstermh · 06-15-2016, 06:21 PM

I'll get a PPI

strat61caster · 06-15-2016, 07:06 PM

$9,000 does not equate to "front bumper was main culprit" that's major subframe, suspension, and ancillary components replaced imo.

But given that it retained a clean title that means that someone stamped OK on the chassis being solid, engine may be a question mark for awhile, there was a guy awhile back who had a crashed car and the engine blew, people assumed that the engine took a harder smack in the accident than the owner was willing to accept and created a problem that took awhile to surface. Don't remember how that turned out...

Get a full inspection, be willing to deal with unforeseen issues down the road, wiring, engine, alignment, etc. could all come back and bite you. Get it if you don't mind a potential project requiring some serious investment to the point that you may as well have bought a clean accident free car. It's a gamble imo. Could work out to be the best decision you ever made, or the worst.

Dave-ROR · 06-15-2016, 08:38 PM

Better be cheap. These cars aren't worth a whole lot without accident damage.. $9k worth of damage, if it's fixed right, I'd still want at least $4,500 off a normal cars price. $9k isn't a bumper respray. I know as I resprayed mine by a very high end shop (best paint on the car when I sold it, new owner agrees) but it didn't involve replacing anything but that was ~$1k. Even replacing the bumper would be at most $2k. With headlights and all other lights ~$3k since you can find them in the yard easily enough. Even stretch it to $4k. It had more than bumper damage.. and the metal work was far more costly if done right.

Dave-ROR · 06-15-2016, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

But given that it retained a clean title that means that someone stamped OK on the chassis being solid,

Be careful with that assumption. If I wanted to, I could make my track car's Certificate of Destruction title become a clean title car again. Just takes some time and effort.. and money. Granted that car was a theft recovery not a wreck but the process is the same.

humfrz · 06-15-2016, 08:59 PM

Well, I reckon if it has run OK for 27,000 miles after the accident, it should be OK .... at the right price for it's general condition.

humfrz

Mr.ac · 06-15-2016, 09:11 PM

If there was zero frame damage and the work was done by a good shop and you know exactly where the damage was, and you don't care, I say go for it.

strat61caster · 06-16-2016, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Be careful with that assumption. If I wanted to, I could make my track car's Certificate of Destruction title become a clean title car again. Just takes some time and effort.. and money. Granted that car was a theft recovery not a wreck but the process is the same.

I phrased that poorly, that someone could have been cross eyed Joe, 'yup looks straight from ere'

tennisfreak · 06-16-2016, 11:01 AM

Since we have established title status, and who did the repairs the most important question we need answered now is:

How much is the car?

Summerwolf · 06-16-2016, 11:02 AM

I wouldn't buy it.... these cars are dirt cheap without accidents so...wait for a good one.

fumanchu1 · 06-16-2016, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster

$9,000 does not equate to "front bumper was main culprit" that's major subframe, suspension, and ancillary components replaced imo.

But given that it retained a clean title that means that someone stamped OK on the chassis being solid, engine may be a question mark for awhile, there was a guy awhile back who had a crashed car and the engine blew, people assumed that the engine took a harder smack in the accident than the owner was willing to accept and created a problem that took awhile to surface. Don't remember how that turned out...

Get a full inspection, be willing to deal with unforeseen issues down the road, wiring, engine, alignment, etc. could all come back and bite you. Get it if you don't mind a potential project requiring some serious investment to the point that you may as well have bought a clean accident free car. It's a gamble imo. Could work out to be the best decision you ever made, or the worst.

I would tend to agree, I had 6.5k damages (in Canadian money) and had front bumper, front lip (seibon carbon), 1 wheel (18*9.5 57xtreme), 1 tire (pss), 1 shock (kw v.3) and everything behind said shock including some minor subframe damage... and that was only 6500$ cdn and keep in mind my aftermarket parts cost much more than the oem variant (like 800$ just for the front lip and 600 for the wheel without tire) so definitely more than a bumper for 9k USD

Mattstermh · 06-16-2016, 02:41 PM

It's $16k w a remote starter. I could go for $19k w/ 20k miles no accidents instead.

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Mattstermh Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Drives: '13 FR-S A/T - Stock Location: New England Posts: 134 Thanks: 62 Thanked 23 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Buying 2013 FRS that was in an accident Guy was second owner, got the car with 2000 miles and got into a snow accident at 3000 miles. Did $9000 worth of repairs, front bumper was the main culprit, and the car now has 30,000 miles on it. I'm thinking it's fine. Anything I should be aware of? Edit: title was clean and all work was done with official aftermarket parts at the Toyota dealer. Need to get more information, regarding what was replaced Last edited by Mattstermh; 06-15-2016 at 05:10 PM.

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Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	Better be cheap. These cars aren't worth a whole lot without accident damage.. $9k worth of damage, if it's fixed right, I'd still want at least $4,500 off a normal cars price. $9k isn't a bumper respray. I know as I resprayed mine by a very high end shop (best paint on the car when I sold it, new owner agrees) but it didn't involve replacing anything but that was ~$1k. Even replacing the bumper would be at most $2k. With headlights and all other lights ~$3k since you can find them in the yard easily enough. Even stretch it to $4k. It had more than bumper damage.. and the metal work was far more costly if done right. __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

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