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Mattstermh 06-15-2016 05:25 PM

Buying 2013 FRS that was in an accident
 
Guy was second owner, got the car with 2000 miles and got into a snow accident at 3000 miles. Did $9000 worth of repairs, front bumper was the main culprit, and the car now has 30,000 miles on it. I'm thinking it's fine. Anything I should be aware of?

Edit: title was clean and all work was done with official aftermarket parts at the Toyota dealer.
Need to get more information, regarding what was replaced

jasonojordan 06-15-2016 05:28 PM

How is it titled. Who did the work. Detailed list of what was replaced and why.

Mattstermh 06-15-2016 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonojordan (Post 2681609)
How is it titled. Who did the work. Detailed list of what was replaced and why.

Updated first post: clean title, authorized Toyota dealer did the work. Need to get the service records.

Mattstermh 06-15-2016 07:21 PM

I'll get a PPI

strat61caster 06-15-2016 08:06 PM

$9,000 does not equate to "front bumper was main culprit" that's major subframe, suspension, and ancillary components replaced imo.

But given that it retained a clean title that means that someone stamped OK on the chassis being solid, engine may be a question mark for awhile, there was a guy awhile back who had a crashed car and the engine blew, people assumed that the engine took a harder smack in the accident than the owner was willing to accept and created a problem that took awhile to surface. Don't remember how that turned out...

Get a full inspection, be willing to deal with unforeseen issues down the road, wiring, engine, alignment, etc. could all come back and bite you. Get it if you don't mind a potential project requiring some serious investment to the point that you may as well have bought a clean accident free car. It's a gamble imo. Could work out to be the best decision you ever made, or the worst.

Dave-ROR 06-15-2016 09:38 PM

Better be cheap. These cars aren't worth a whole lot without accident damage.. $9k worth of damage, if it's fixed right, I'd still want at least $4,500 off a normal cars price. $9k isn't a bumper respray. I know as I resprayed mine by a very high end shop (best paint on the car when I sold it, new owner agrees) but it didn't involve replacing anything but that was ~$1k. Even replacing the bumper would be at most $2k. With headlights and all other lights ~$3k since you can find them in the yard easily enough. Even stretch it to $4k. It had more than bumper damage.. and the metal work was far more costly if done right.

Dave-ROR 06-15-2016 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2681712)
But given that it retained a clean title that means that someone stamped OK on the chassis being solid,

Be careful with that assumption. If I wanted to, I could make my track car's Certificate of Destruction title become a clean title car again. Just takes some time and effort.. and money. Granted that car was a theft recovery not a wreck but the process is the same.

humfrz 06-15-2016 09:59 PM

Well, I reckon if it has run OK for 27,000 miles after the accident, it should be OK .... at the right price for it's general condition.


humfrz

Mr.ac 06-15-2016 10:11 PM

If there was zero frame damage and the work was done by a good shop and you know exactly where the damage was, and you don't care, I say go for it.

strat61caster 06-16-2016 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 2681786)
Be careful with that assumption. If I wanted to, I could make my track car's Certificate of Destruction title become a clean title car again. Just takes some time and effort.. and money. Granted that car was a theft recovery not a wreck but the process is the same.

I phrased that poorly, that someone could have been cross eyed Joe, 'yup looks straight from ere'

tennisfreak 06-16-2016 12:01 PM

Since we have established title status, and who did the repairs the most important question we need answered now is:

How much is the car?

Summerwolf 06-16-2016 12:02 PM

I wouldn't buy it.... these cars are dirt cheap without accidents so...wait for a good one.

fumanchu1 06-16-2016 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat61caster (Post 2681712)
$9,000 does not equate to "front bumper was main culprit" that's major subframe, suspension, and ancillary components replaced imo.

But given that it retained a clean title that means that someone stamped OK on the chassis being solid, engine may be a question mark for awhile, there was a guy awhile back who had a crashed car and the engine blew, people assumed that the engine took a harder smack in the accident than the owner was willing to accept and created a problem that took awhile to surface. Don't remember how that turned out...

Get a full inspection, be willing to deal with unforeseen issues down the road, wiring, engine, alignment, etc. could all come back and bite you. Get it if you don't mind a potential project requiring some serious investment to the point that you may as well have bought a clean accident free car. It's a gamble imo. Could work out to be the best decision you ever made, or the worst.

I would tend to agree, I had 6.5k damages (in Canadian money) and had front bumper, front lip (seibon carbon), 1 wheel (18*9.5 57xtreme), 1 tire (pss), 1 shock (kw v.3) and everything behind said shock including some minor subframe damage... and that was only 6500$ cdn and keep in mind my aftermarket parts cost much more than the oem variant (like 800$ just for the front lip and 600 for the wheel without tire) so definitely more than a bumper for 9k USD

Mattstermh 06-16-2016 03:41 PM

It's $16k w a remote starter. I could go for $19k w/ 20k miles no accidents instead.


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