Will Delicious Tuning Stage 2 flas work w/ stock header?

[aznatama]

I may be trading in my car, and I currently have a P&L header w/ the Delicious Tuning Stage2 EcuTek flash installed.

I no longer have the cable, so I'm wondering if I can just swap back the stock header and leave the tune on the car, or will it drive worse than stock that way?

[steve99]

Originally Posted by aznatama

I may be trading in my car, and I currently have a P&L header w/ the Delicious Tuning Stage2 EcuTek flash installed.

I no longer have the cable, so I'm wondering if I can just swap back the stock header and leave the tune on the car, or will it drive worse than stock that way?

any ecutek tuner or anyone with a ecutek cable will be able to flash it to stock.


It will run with stock header but wont be optimal.

[aznatama]

Yeah, I know it can be flashed to stock, but I need to trade in the car and don't have time to wait. Thanks.

I'll just put a note in the owner's manual for the future owner.

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[ryoma]

sounds like you're screwing over the next owner... take the extra time to flash it back to stock or leave the headers on.

[aznatama]

Howso? Next owner gets a free tune and ecutek license. Runs fine with stock header, not optimal I'm sure, but still better than stock.

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[ryoma]

Originally Posted by aznatama

Howso? Next owner gets a free tune and ecutek license. Runs fine with stock header, not optimal I'm sure, but still better than stock.

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sure he gets a free tune, but the tune is not optimized for the setup. you have the stock header on a tune that is meant for an aftermarket header. I doubt it will run better than stock and will have a lot of knock. especially if the next owner is someone who is not knowledgeable about cars and will probably never mod anything on his car. if you run the stage 2 tune on a stock header, there is more negatives than positives.

[seito23]

Dude, it will run fine, the tables will adjust. I ran the stage 2 tune for a while before I got my headers and the logs looked fine.

[EAGLE5]

There's a great chance the car won't pass a smog check when running a tune. Depends on the tune, though. Leaving the wrong tune in is crapping on the next owner. Uncool.

[aznatama]

Recently just passed smog with the header, should be fine with stock header. Also, not like I had a choice since no shop that had a cable would let me use it or do the work until next week, and I had 2days to make this work.

I just drove the car 200 miles and ran it through the entire rev range. No problems, and felt fine.

Maybe @DeliciousTuning will chime in?

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[DeliciousTuning]

It is definitely not recommended to run a Stage 2 on what is now a Stage 1 car. Our Stage 2 tunes were designed around cars specifically with an aftermarket header, and for good reason. Running this tune on a Stage 1 car will have improper VVT timing, ignition timing, fueling, di timing, and more. This can actually be quite unsafe. I highly recommend flashing the car back to a stock tune before selling it.

Sincerely,

Zach
Delicious Tuning

[EAGLE5]

Acting like this will make the car harder to sell for all of us. Be responsible, please.

[aznatama]

Well, too late. Like I said, I had 2 days to make it work, and I tried calling around best I could. Nobody would let me use a cable for 5 min, nor did anyone have time to do the 5min of work even if I paid for it for at least 5 days even though I explained that I needed it done because I was selling the car and reverting back to stock. Not like I didn't try to revert, which is why I made this post.

I fully disclosed to the dealer I traded the car to, so I'm done. Thanks for the input.