Full throttle Electric Supercharger Build Thread

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by TM

I was driving home on the back roads to enjoy the sound of my new UEL headers and decided to see how it feels with the ESC unarmed. I forgot how slow this car is in its stock form! Even with headers. The car does not pull!

Yea, but the ESC tune is not very good with the ESC unarmed. The Stage 1 OFT tune pulled pretty good from 4000 rpm on. It's nothing like that with the ESC tune and ESC unarmed. It doesn't even feel to me as good as I remember stock was.

[robwbright]

This was crazy... prior to installing the ESC and OFT tune, I usually averaged around 34-35 mpg on 60-65mph highway driving. I reset the Average MPG thingy and then drove 60-65 mph for 25 miles. (I realize those average estimates aren't terribly precise, but I would think it would be relatively accurate in comparison to it's own prior readings).

[l0aded]

A few questions (sorry if they've been answered). Under the activation at 70% WOT, is there any noticable difference in driving?

Second, I remember one member had an ESC failure where he couldn't turn his car on. I believe this is different from the other guy who had a faulty controller which was replaced by Rob. Did anything resolve from this? Was it the ESC's fault?

Third, how does the sound of the engine/exhaust change? Is the supercharger noticably loud? I am OFT tuned and I have that annoying aggressive VVT angle change that sounds rather metalic, is this still very apparent on pump gas?

Lastly, any issues people are facing? I believe I read someone had a 500ms-1000ms lag but this is a non-issue imo. Anything else or complaints in general? I've heard the pros hundreds of times but I like to nitpick a bit =)

Also since so many new memebrs are getting the ESC I am wondering on your impressions thus far! Please keep us proespective buyers filled in.

When will the next shipments be available for purchase? I am finishing finals in the next week and would love a summer project

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by l0aded

A few questions (sorry if they've been answered). Under the activation at 70% WOT, is there any noticable difference in driving?

Second, I remember one member had an ESC failure where he couldn't turn his car on. I believe this is different from the other guy who had a faulty controller which was replaced by Rob. Did anything resolve from this? Was it the ESC's fault?

Third, how does the sound of the engine/exhaust change? Is the supercharger noticably loud? I am OFT tuned and I have that annoying aggressive VVT angle change that sounds rather metalic, is this still very apparent on pump gas?

Lastly, any issues people are facing? I believe I read someone had a 500ms-1000ms lag but this is a non-issue imo. Anything else or complaints in general? I've heard the pros hundreds of times but I like to nitpick a bit =)

Also since so many new memebrs are getting the ESC I am wondering on your impressions thus far! Please keep us proespective buyers filled in.

When will the next shipments be available for purchase? I am finishing finals in the next week and would love a summer project

The guy whose car wouldn't start had a hole in his air filter due to a rodent chewing through it. The guy with the faulty controller, well that's me. As for it getting resolved, Rob sent me a new controller and things are working flawlessly. In addition to this Rob's customer service has been exceptional, so if you're in the market for the ESC I wouldn't hesitate one bit


Sound really doesn't change and the "lag" is normal and honestly is nothing compared to traditional Forced Induction.


As for impressions....completely changed the fun factor of the car! The car's a blast to drive with the ESC

[Target70]

Originally Posted by l0aded

I believe this is different from the other guy who had a faulty controller which was replaced by Rob. Did anything resolve from this? Was it the ESC's fault?

Originally Posted by raven1231

The guy whose car wouldn't start had a hole in his air filter due to a rodent chewing through it...

^ this, the esc wasn't involved, a piece of the chewed up filter was blocking the mass air flow sensor.

If you want a summer project, PM rob and make sure you are on the list, or it might turn into a fall project

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by Target70

^ this, the esc wasn't involved, a piece of the chewed up filter was blocking the mass air flow sensor.

If you want a summer project, PM rob and make sure you are on the list, or it might turn into a fall project

With a great product comes great demand

[TM]

Originally Posted by l0aded

Third, how does the sound of the engine/exhaust change? Is the supercharger noticably loud? I am OFT tuned and I have that annoying aggressive VVT angle change that sounds rather metalic, is this still very apparent on pump gas?

When I was on stock headers, the aggressive VVT change was still very noticeable. The supercharger is not noticeably loud. Maybe a light whirling sound on top of the engine noise, which sounds rather nice.

After I got UEL headers, both of those two are not noticeable anymore.

[DC2R]

Originally Posted by robwbright

Yea, but the ESC tune is not very good with the ESC unarmed. The Stage 1 OFT tune pulled pretty good from 4000 rpm on. It's nothing like that with the ESC tune and ESC unarmed. It doesn't even feel to me as good as I remember stock was.

Wouldn't it be slower even with stage one tune since turning esc off turns off drag reduction?

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[Gary in NJ]

Originally Posted by DC2R

Wouldn't it be slower even with stage one tune since turning esc off turns off drag reduction?

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The restriction only results in a few hp penalty - at the very top end. Not enough to notice. Less of an effect then carrying a passenger.

[shif7i7down]

I don't think the esc would make a fun summer project. It only takes 2hrs to install lol

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by DC2R

Wouldn't it be slower even with stage one tune since turning esc off turns off drag reduction?

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I meant to say Stage 1 tune without ESC installed. ESC tune with ESC installed but not armed feels slower to me than Stage 1 tune.

Maybe I'm wrong but the car feels flat with no significant increase in hp/tq around 4000-500 rpm. As I recall... stock, the car felt almost like a Prelude VTEC at 5000 rpm... and with Stage 1 tune (without ESC installed), that feeling of a little bit of boost happened closer to 4000 rpm.

I didn't feel much of either with the ESC installed but unarmed. Now that wouldn't necessarily mean it was less powerful overall, but the tune feels more "flat" if that makes any sense.

I'm open to correction/clarification.

I don't recall seeing a clear/detailed explanation of how drag reduction works and how the ESC kit turns it off. If someone would like to chime in, I'd appreciate it.

Would the fact that drag reduction is off be the reason for the apparently increased gas mileage?

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by shif7i7down

I don't think the esc would make a fun summer project. It only takes 2hrs to install lol

Unless you're overly careful and get interrupted, causing you to make a mistake and have to backtrack on your work like I did... then it takes 3 hours.

[robwbright]

Originally Posted by fenton

If you run only the drag reduction it can run 100 percent of the time off the batteries. Its only going to add 10 or 15 HP more but the batteries are big enough and current draw is low enough that they could never be depleted.

If you dont want the full power just go 70% throttle instead of >80%...... and trust me after a day with the charger this is very easy to do.

@fenton, could you please explain the last sentence?

[TM]

Originally Posted by robwbright

@fenton, could you please explain the last sentence?

Fenton is saying that if you just want the DR without the full boost, just step on the petal right before it hits the WOT switch.


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