Embarrassment! Need more low end HP!

[Brndn704]

Originally Posted by Silverdub

dude, just dop in a turbo and call it a day BUT, there will ALWAYS be someone faster

The bad thing about a turbo is you have to wait for your boost. Like I said, just get the Vortech Supercharger and you won't be sorry. It's the best investment you can make on your FR-S.

[Ryeong86]

Originally Posted by BlessedFRS

Wasn't street racing just trying to pass and the guy had to prove a point that left the frs looking like ��!

This car needs more power and as beautiful as it is and as sporty as looks someone has to take a stand and get off the line fast enough to pass these jerks. I was thinking of getting a Perrin pulley, flywheel, CF crankshaft, and Injen short ram to get some extra pep, but was wondering if any of you had opinions or experiences on better upgrades to get more torque/whp freed up?

Well he got the jump on you lol. If I wanted to pass this slow ass, I would have already turned off traction control and revved to 4,000 rpm just get the jump at the light and them resume normal speed at 55mph. It's not racing, I just don't like being stuck behind non speed limit reading assholes who drive 10-15 mph under the speed limit in normal safe driving conditions.

[Silverdub]

Originally Posted by Logical

The bad thing about a turbo is you have to wait for your boost. Like I said, just get the Vortech Supercharger and you won't be sorry. It's the best investment you can make on your FR-S.

wait for boost? i am full boost at 3500rpm...pretty satisfying

[DJCarbine]

Originally Posted by Demandred7

I owned a 2000 Grand Am GT with the 3.4 L and despite the FR-S being 300 lbs lighter, the Grand Am has more than 50 lb-ft torque advantage (albeit a 25 hp disadvantage). All summed up, it could give many a run for their money.

However, the OP had to contend with a Grand Prix. Not sure what level of Trim, but, if it was the base grade and you couldn't beat him, you were likely in the wrong gear. Yeah, I know it has 195 lb-ft of torque, but, 600 lbs is a lot of weight to overcome. If it was the GT, it has enough to make it pretty hard for you to just pull away from him. The GTP, you wouldn't stand a chance in a straightaway. That bad boy is packing 280 hp and 240 lb-ft of torque with its supercharger on full blow (I've test driven one, and the power just knocks you back in your seat).

Misread his encounter, and yeah... a Grand Prix GTP would absolutely destroy him. Even the Buick Regal GS shared the same body/engine as the Grand Prix I believe.

I always wanted a Buick Regal GS as a sleeper/cruiser car

[Brndn704]

Originally Posted by Silverdub

wait for boost? i am full boost at 3500rpm...pretty satisfying

I'm at full boost 24/7. That's satisfying.

[BlessedFRS]

Guys again, I wasn't racing, my job is too important to lose it over racing a douche, he just punched it and I was completely appalled. I bought the car for the looks, cost and economy. Sue me if I want more power, I'm a man. If I wanted to drive around in a nice looking car with no power I'd of gotten a sedan. If you have nothing positive to say, go to another thread.

To those with good recommendations. I appreciate it and will use your advice.

[BlessedFRS]

After he beat me he slammed on breaks and turned into his driveway 50 yards further up the road laughing........

Originally Posted by Rampage

After he "beat" you did he slow back down to 45?

[NotSoJDM]

Originally Posted by BlessedFRS

After he beat me he slammed on breaks and turned into his driveway 50 yards further up the road laughing........

And now you know where he lives. You win.

[NotSoJDM]

Originally Posted by Logical

I'm at full boost 24/7. That's satisfying.

Please explain how you're at full boost 24/7 when all the vortech graphs show linear boost increase throughout the rpm range, and only seeing "full" boost by redline.

[kilrb]

Originally Posted by torqdork

I don't care what you're driving, sooner or later you'll come up to something that will smoke you in a straight line 100 yd. sprint. It could've been worse, like a worked Dodge Cummins pickup that would literally smoke you.

Amen. Can you run a low 12 in the quarter? There's someone who can run a high 11. Run a high 11? There's someone else who can run a low 11. Run a low 11... It never ends...;-)

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by Kelbyat07

Staying on topic here. Air intake and exhuast is a start.

IMO This is what I would do in this order if you want more low in power. Intake is a waste imo unless you are getting a CAI. I would just get a nice drop in filter for the stock box. Get an exhaust after you get your headers.

1: Tune 91/93 or E85 if you have access.
2: Headers(if your state allows it)

These 2 items installed and tuned correctly will transform the car.

[Brndn704]

Originally Posted by NotSoJDM

Please explain how you're at full boost 24/7 when all the vortech graphs show linear boost increase throughout the rpm range, and only seeing "full" boost by redline.

I was being sarcastic.

[Sonolin]

I don't get it...

(taken from http://www.zeroto60times.com/)

1999 Pontiac Grand Am GT 0-60 mph 7.6
2012 Dodge Grand Caravan R/T 0-60 mph 7.8
2013 Dodge Caravan 0-60 7.2

2013 Scion FR-S (Manual) 0-60 mph 6.2


Honestly I think people put down this car's acceleration times a little much. It does very good for an n/a 4 cylinder. Yea its not a stop light drag queen but if you wanted that you should slap yourself for buying this car.

I like to look at classic muscle cars as a good example of quickness. Yea they're not the fastest by today's standards, but I'm a huge muscle car fan and it shows how much technology has advanced in 40 or so years that a 4 cylinder sports coupe is faster than an old v8 and much better fuel economy & emissions:

(Disclaimer: I'm not saying the twins are better than any of these cars. Its personally one of my dreams to own a classic muscle car, ideally a big block of course )

1964 Ford Mustang (V8) 0-60 mph 7.3
1967 Chevrolet Camaro SS 0-60 mph 7.9
1970 Dodge Challenger T/A 0-60 mph 7.0

Of course anything with a big block, or any modern v8 will smoke the twins.


I guess the summary for my post is OP: learn to downshift.

Just don't get discouraged when a mazda 3 or focus st smokes you at a stoplight. This isn't a drag racer!

[cfusionpm]

Originally Posted by Sonolin

Honestly I think people put down this car's acceleration times a little much. It does very good for an n/a 4 cylinder. Yea its not a stop light drag queen but if you wanted that you should slap yourself for buying this car.

I think people expect more out of it because of how it looks. It LOOKS like it should be doing 0-60 in 5 seconds. It LOOKS like it should do low 13s in the 1/4 mile. It does mid 6s to 60 and high 14s in the 1/4.

Plus, many FWD econoboxes out-accelerate us as well. Everything from sporty hatches to mid-sized sedans, minivans, and pickups. It's just not very quick in today's world.

All that being said, I still wouldn't trade this for anything else currently on the market. The only things I would buy over this cost significantly more.