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15limited · 10-08-2015, 11:26 PM

I turn them all off, hold traction control button down for 5 seconds, first thing after I start up the car every time. I live in the Pacific NW, and granted just getting the car earlier this summer, I haven't had it in the rain very much yet but simple throttle control keeps this car exactly where you want it until you tell it otherwise. Haven't hydroplaned yet tho, that might change things up a bit.

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humdizzle · 10-09-2015, 05:44 AM

i turn them all off as soon as i start the car. the vsc sport still interferes too much for me.

Plus you never know when there will be an opportune drift moment and you can't spare 5 sec to turn off the systems.

MisterSheep · 10-09-2015, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Toyarzee

wait wait wait

wtf?
Is that something like if you take it in with a blown motor and the thing was in diagnostic mode RECENTLY they'll use it as leverage; or is it a once used and eff you?

I read somewhere that a dealership denied warranty due to the "pedal dance" Ill try to find that read.

Toyarzee · 10-09-2015, 02:03 PM

Please do...

mav1178 · 10-09-2015, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterSheep

Hold Trac button= no traction nor stability control. Use for mad drifts and all the burnouts. It will not save you. Proceed with caution.

Pedal dance turns off all aid 100% NOT FOR STREET USE!= for the track junkies that have the frs as their track car and do not plan to take it to the dealership because dealer can track when you go into this mode.

Fixed.

Hold trac button = will not allow you to drift properly, as it still kicks in when the car rotates excessively.

As for pedal dance = dealer issues, that is pure BS unless you are trying to warranty clutch, tires, differential, axle, or other engine issues that may be associated with car abuse.

Pedal dance or not, that is a DIAGNOSTIC MODE for a service tech to road test a car.

-alex

strat61caster · 10-09-2015, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mav1178

Hold trac button = will not allow you to drift properly, as it still kicks in when the car rotates excessively.

You know I've heard a few people echo this but I'm not 100% onboard, in my experience the trac-hold will not save you from a spin, should not affect drifting unless the EBD affecting brake bias is too disruptive with the trail braking required.

Seemed like CSG's testing pointed to the trail braking and lifting a wheel being the two cases where the trac-hold stepped in, shouldn't be any wheel lift while drifting.

mav1178 · 10-09-2015, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

You know I've heard a few people echo this but I'm not 100% onboard, in my experience the trac-hold will not save you from a spin, should not affect drifting unless the EBD affecting brake bias is too disruptive with the trail braking required.

Holding down trac button prevented me from doing simple figure 8s on a wetted skidpad about a year ago.

-alex

Clipdat · 10-09-2015, 03:29 PM

I leave all the nannies on when I do aggressive canyon carving and I still have a great time. *shrug*

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Originally Posted by MisterSheep

Leaving it all on (no buttons pressed)= normal driver

VSC Sport button= driver who is not entirely experienced but wants to drive through a canyon road aggresively yet safely.

Toyarzee · 10-09-2015, 03:31 PM

I've run into issues with 5 sec trac off as well for some maneuvers. I'm starting to get annoyed enough to look into that box that replaces the need to do the whole pedal dance out of laziness

shiumai · 10-09-2015, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kch

yeah, it's using the ABS to stop wheelspin rather than limiting power. it sounds pretty terrible.

I'd rather hear the ABS kick in than the sound of my wheel slamming into a curb

Now THAT would be a much worse sound!

BRZ_Prague · 10-09-2015, 05:32 PM

I've read somewhere, that when car is not fully warmed up it will save you even with TRC fully off.

Bramick · 10-10-2015, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Toyarzee

I've run into issues with 5 sec trac off as well for some maneuvers. I'm starting to get annoyed enough to look into that box that replaces the need to do the whole pedal dance out of laziness

That box is pretty awesome, especially for trackers.

dalli · 10-10-2015, 02:30 PM

Even if you leave all controls on(no buttons pressed), you can still slide the rear out. Well i can on my brz and its pretty fun, esp in the rain

Chanpion · 10-11-2015, 02:03 AM

If you live up in the north:
I personally keep in is VSC sport the whole time. But disable your traction control when you leave the line, only way to get moving in the snow/ ice.
Basically, press right button when you get in car. Hold both down for a few seconds for track. Press just the left one for snow/ ice. The left button will disable or switch it back to normal after a few seconds/ over 50kmh.
I try to keep them off at all times. The car communicates so well, doesn't snap or anything.

10-08-2015, 11:26 PM	#15
15limited Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: BRZ Location: PNW Posts: 387 Thanks: 456 Thanked 150 Times in 113 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I turn them all off, hold traction control button down for 5 seconds, first thing after I start up the car every time. I live in the Pacific NW, and granted just getting the car earlier this summer, I haven't had it in the rain very much yet but simple throttle control keeps this car exactly where you want it until you tell it otherwise. Haven't hydroplaned yet tho, that might change things up a bit. Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk __________________ Perrin Transmission Bolt, Drift Button,Intake Tube, Radiator Hoses, Engine Mounts, Gurney Flap Diode Dynamics Always On Module OLM 3k HID Foglights GCS Smoked Side Markers Motul Gear 300/300 V OE Acantara arm rest Password JDM Dry Carbon rear diffuser Rally Armour Mud flaps H.I.C side & rear visor Gruppe-S UEL header/OP HKS Front Pipe Leg Sport Cat Back Koyorad aluminum radiator Wheelhaus CF low pro 3rd brake light Toms JDM Clear Tail Lamps

10-09-2015, 05:44 AM	#16
humdizzle Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Drives: 2018 GT3 / 2015 M3 Location: Missouri Posts: 290 Thanks: 102 Thanked 316 Times in 119 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i turn them all off as soon as i start the car. the vsc sport still interferes too much for me. Plus you never know when there will be an opportune drift moment and you can't spare 5 sec to turn off the systems. __________________ 2018 GT3 6MT 2021 M2 Comp DCT Past: 458 Italia, R35 GTR, E36/E46/F80 M3, 335i, Scion FRS

10-10-2015, 02:30 PM	#27
dalli Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Drives: Toyota Location: New York City Posts: 575 Thanks: 37 Thanked 40 Times in 30 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Even if you leave all controls on(no buttons pressed), you can still slide the rear out. Well i can on my brz and its pretty fun, esp in the rain __________________

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Chanpion Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: 13 FRS Satin Location: Alberta Posts: 162 Thanks: 25 Thanked 60 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If you live up in the north: I personally keep in is VSC sport the whole time. But disable your traction control when you leave the line, only way to get moving in the snow/ ice. Basically, press right button when you get in car. Hold both down for a few seconds for track. Press just the left one for snow/ ice. The left button will disable or switch it back to normal after a few seconds/ over 50kmh. I try to keep them off at all times. The car communicates so well, doesn't snap or anything.

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