17x9 Wheels on stock suspension

[Jayela]

Hey guys, thanks for all the responses! I got just a bit lost, some people mention springs and camber. Might sound stupid but can I adjust camber on stock suspension? And for the springs, do I need to get some specific ones? I was thinking about getting a a bit shorter stiffer springs before coils (coils are a plan for probably next summer).

Can anyone please sum up what do I need to get those wheels on? I know camber will be beneficial for autocross and not afraid of it (as long as it's reasonable and performance oriented), so -2 sounds perfectly fine.

Thanks everyone!

[NLSP]

I ran my 17x9, +35 for a while on stock suspension with no issues. You can get a little more negative camber up front by purchasing OEM crash bolts that go in the upper slot. I think I got about -1.5 at the time, but it can vary a bit depending on each individual car. Rear camber is not adjustable unless you have aftermarket control arms.

Springs are not necessary to fit the wheels. I think it'd be a waste of money since you're planning to get coilovers in the future anyway. Save the money on springs to get the coilovers faster.

...or you can save even more money and just get good tires on the stock wheels. You'd be amazed at what tires alone can do, even in stock size. Something in the Extreme Summer category, such as Hankook RS3, Dunlop Z2 Star Spec, BFGoodrich Rival S, or Bridgestone Potenza RE-71R.

Also, if you actually want to improve/learn driving skill, don't go super wide and super sticky too fast. That'll just mask any driving mistakes and you won't be learning car control as much.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by Jayela

Hey guys, thanks for all the responses! I got just a bit lost, some people mention springs and camber. Might sound stupid but can I adjust camber on stock suspension? And for the springs, do I need to get some specific ones? I was thinking about getting a a bit shorter stiffer springs before coils (coils are a plan for probably next summer).

Can anyone please sum up what do I need to get those wheels on? I know camber will be beneficial for autocross and not afraid of it (as long as it's reasonable and performance oriented), so -2 sounds perfectly fine.

Thanks everyone!

You will not be able to make any camber adjustments to oem suspension w/o any additional parts.

You can get camber bolts for the front-- find a good alignment person/shop and get them to dial in as much camber up front as possible w/ the bolts, keeping the toe straight (or adjust to whatever suits your taste). You won't be able/need to do anything to the rear if you're on completely stock suspension.

[Jayela]

Originally Posted by NLSP

I ran my 17x9, +35 for a while on stock suspension with no issues. You can get a little more negative camber up front using the OEM crash bolts in the upper slot. I think I got about -1.5 at the time, but it can vary a bit depending on each individual car. Rear camber is not adjustable unless you have aftermarket control arms.

Springs are not necessary to fit the wheels. I think it'd be a waste of money since you're planning to get coilovers in the future anyway. Save the money on springs to get the coilovers faster.

...or you can save even more money and just get good tires on the stock wheels. You'd be amazed at what tires alone can do, even in stock size. Something in the Extreme Summer category, such as Hankook RS3, Dunlop Z2 Star Spec, BFGoodrich Rival S, or Bridgestone Potenza RE-71R.

Also, if you actually want to improve/learn driving skill, don't go super wide and super sticky too fast. That'll just mask any driving mistakes and you won't be learning car control as much.

So I'll just go all-in next summer and get wheels, tires, coils and sway bars next summer and currently make do of whatever stock can offer. Thanks a lot!

[Jayela]

Originally Posted by asdf

You will not be able to make any camber adjustments to oem suspension w/o any additional parts.

You can get camber bolts for the front-- find a good alignment person/shop and get them to dial in as much camber up front as possible w/ the bolts, keeping the toe straight (or adjust to whatever suits your taste). You won't be able/need to do anything to the rear if you're on completely stock suspension.

Is it worth doing for stock and if I plan switching to coils for next season? Thanks!

[Mad_Mike]

Originally Posted by Jayela

Is it worth doing for stock and if I plan switching to coils for next season? Thanks!

Yes, the bolts are only like $10. You can even use them on some coilovers depending on which ones you get.

[Donbrz]

Originally Posted by Jayela

Hey guys, thanks for all the responses! I got just a bit lost, some people mention springs and camber. Might sound stupid but can I adjust camber on stock suspension? And for the springs, do I need to get some specific ones? I was thinking about getting a a bit shorter stiffer springs before coils (coils are a plan for probably next summer).

Can anyone please sum up what do I need to get those wheels on? I know camber will be beneficial for autocross and not afraid of it (as long as it's reasonable and performance oriented), so -2 sounds perfectly fine.

Thanks everyone!

17x9 +35 Is the perfect fit on stock. +38 high chance of rub on front strut. I have been running RPF1s 17 x 9 +35 with RE11a Have tracked 9 days, great handling.

[timmydatooth]

Im thinking about getting 17x9 wheels for my frs. Is there really a big difference between +35 and +38? Used for daiky driving so whichever will give me more peace of mind with no rub

[lightdir]

running 17 x 9 +35 with 245/40/17 running -1 up front and -1.75 in the rear. I have had no rubbing issues and it has been 60k miles.