Factory Rev matching or...

[chaoskaze]

Daymm I want rev match~

Gratz to op & happy holiday, it must be the secret santa.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Koa

it's not a "big" no-no, but it definitely isn't a best practice. The synchro wear by doing that isn't going to be significant if you're a good manual driver all around- the gearset would most likely explode before the synchro gets worn from not rev matching all the tie

You'll get wear on the clutch disc. Without rev matching, you have a lot of clutch slip as friction on the disc pulls the engine up to speed. You'll wear that mother out in no time. And if you drop the clutch, you also put a lot of unnecessary stress on the clutch springs.

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by post_break

He'll need to buy a tune and a cable, but the license is on the ecu. He just saved $300+.

Unless he has the dongle the guy is sol. He will need a license at least. If you can find a local who has a cable you can save some cash. Also your car already has a tune on it. You should be able to open the map. Also do some logging before using the second map.

[QuickShift86]

Originally Posted by AznKirby

Wow lucky buyer!
Congrats on the new purchase.

Thanks, more than excited about my new find in my new to me ride. At the same time, I'm curious on what else I'll find done to it.

Kind of a noob to the whole tune. never really dealt with it. So i'm guessing I'll need to buy the dongle, find out what the license is all about. Take it to a shop and have it ran.

Many thanks for the all helpful comments.

[Koa]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

You'll get wear on the clutch disc. Without rev matching, you have a lot of clutch slip as friction on the disc pulls the engine up to speed. You'll wear that mother out in no time. And if you drop the clutch, you also put a lot of unnecessary stress on the clutch springs.

put 90k on my last exedy OEM replacement in the WRX and with a 100 mile weekday commutes and thrashed it since 500 mile break-in period, rev matching each shift is not always convenient in stop and go traffic.. it is a fun game to play while in it, though

watch how people track their cars, it won't wear out your synchros like I said, just accelerate the clutch disk wear. One also has bigger problems to worry about than just clutch springs when they drop the clutch.. That action is completely different shock wise to the drivetrain, especially the gearset and main shaft. How much is to be determined.

Also nothing quite like slipping the clutch on a RWD! Clutches are made to be wear items.

I get your point though.. still feel that 'wearing it out in no time' is TBD by the driver's skills and abilities to mitigate damage by how they drive as a whole

[Ultramaroon]

rev matching != double clutching

Properly executed double clutching saves synchros.

Properly executed rev match saves clutches.

[QuickShift86]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

rev matching != double clutching

Properly executed double clutching saves synchros.

Properly executed rev match saves clutches.

Well rev matching is covered lol. JK, practicing rev matching is what got this post started. Also a firm believer of double clutching. Driving a MT is a kind of a lost art.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by QuickShift86

Well rev matching is covered lol. JK, practicing rev matching is what got this post started. Also a firm believer of double clutching. Driving a MT is a kind of a lost art.

Shhhh! Don't let Shaky hear you say that.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by post_break

He'll need to buy a tune and a cable, but the license is on the ecu. He just saved $300+.

I'm pretty sure you still need a dongle though, otherwise it's not like he can do anything with it

[QuickShift86]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Shhhh! Don't let Shaky hear you say that.

Oooh, but who's Shaky?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by QuickShift86

Oooh, but who's Shaky?

Hahaha... now I see you're new.

extra - "There's positively, absolutely zero fucking reason to double-clutch this transmission." - shaky.

[QuickShift86]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

I'm pretty sure you still need a dongle though, otherwise it's not like he can do anything with it

I thought as much. Im gonna call in tomorrow to see what my options are. Also going to see what other goodies I have in the car, launch control and flat foot shifting. I'll keep ya'll posted on my findings.

[QuickShift86]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Hahaha... now I see you're new.

extra - "There's positively, absolutely zero fucking reason to double-clutch this transmission." - shaky.

Ha! Very new. Already, I like shaky lmao

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by QuickShift86

Ha! Very new. Already, I like shaky lmao

qft

Originally Posted by extrashaky

No. You absolutely positively do not have to double-clutch this car.

He's right, though. Not necessary but can be quite helpful.