EcuTek Flash finished but now it shows only a Partial Flash...

[jamesm]

They change the seed-key algorithm, same as brzedit. It should just be a matter of getting a license added and entering recovery by manually selecting the ecu. I've never had to do the license part, but I know auto recovery works .

[Tromatic]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The reason your OFT won't write to the ecu is due to Ecutek's "overwrite protection"; which changes the security algorithms so that only Ecutek software can write to the ECU. Not even the dealership can recover your ECU at this point.

F that.

[Luckrider]

This is my biggest gripe with BRZEdit and ECUtek. @EcuTek, I am not even a license holder and I would like to see the ability for RETAIL TUNERS to not force overwrite protection. It is silly to have with something that was tuned by the end user (and would also for tuners who are charging money to have the pro tuner license to lock tunes).

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

F that.

take that with a grain of salt. he does have a product to sell, after all.

[Shiv@Openflash]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

take that with a grain of salt. he does have a product to sell, after all.

I do have a product to sell. And what I said was 100% accurate. It's fortunate that there are attentive ecutek tuners on this forum who can help in such emergencies and supply licenses.

[Cross]

Alright I am back in Business, one remote session later and I am back up and going. John answered my text and issued me a new credit to load the tune then everything was great again.

I want to thank Mike again too, he was helping and I was not even his customer. I would have no issues dealing with someone who went out of there way to help me like that. Great service from @moto-mike! I owe you both a beer!

[Xero-Limit]

Glad you got it fixed, why we put in "try JV first" as step 1 in the PM

Originally Posted by Cross

Alright I am back in Business, one remote session later and I am back up and going. John answered my text and issued me a new credit to load the tune then everything was great again.

I want to thank Mike again too, he was helping and I was not even his customer. I would have no issues dealing with someone who went out of there way to help me like that. Great service from @moto-mike! I owe you both a beer!

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I do have a product to sell. And what I said was 100% accurate. It's fortunate that there are attentive ecutek tuners on this forum who can help in such emergencies and supply licenses.

Not accurate at all. When a flash fails the ECU is half written and neither EcuTek, OFT, nor anything else knows what they're looking at. This is not some malicious anything. Just a failed flash due to either user error or simple bad luck. EcuTek can still write to it because you can manually select. Open source and some others and you're floundering for boot mode.

[Shiv@Openflash]

Originally Posted by moto-mike

Glad you got it fixed, why we put in "try JV first" as step 1 in the PM





Not accurate at all. When a flash fails the ECU is half written and neither EcuTek, OFT, nor anything else knows what they're looking at. This is not some malicious anything. Just a failed flash due to either user error or simple bad luck. EcuTek can still write to it because you can manually select. Open source and some others and you're floundering for boot mode.

The problem here is that there is potential for a lost license during a partial/failed write. And in such the case, a new license must be issued before it allows another flash to be written (recovery). I've dealt with this many times myself when I was a dealer. Only back then we only bench-flashed (customer mailed us their ECU so the expected their car to be nonfunctional for a period of time). The following was only visible to myself and sw license supplier:

Me: Hey guys I lost a license during a failed write. But no big deal I used up another one to flash the ECU. Could you please reimburse me for the lost license?
Them: Ok, please send use the log file so we can verify
Me: Ok, you have email
Them: Ok, here is your replacement license
Me: Thanks!

Now as end users are flashing their cars, such a license issue means that they need to contact their tuner and have them email a new license in order to get a functional car. They cannot flash their ECU back to stock using another flashing tool (or dealership) due to write protection. I really don't need to go any further to point out the merits of this approach.

-Shiv

[Luckrider]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The problem here is that there is potential for a lost license during a partial/failed write. And in such the case, a new license must be issued before it allows another flash to be written (recovery). I've dealt with this many times myself when I was an Ecutek dealer. Only back then we only bench-flashed (customer mailed us their ECU so the expected their car to be nonfunctional for a period of time). The following was only visible to myself and Ecutek:

Me: Hey guys I lost a license during a failed write. But no big deal I used up another one to flash the ECU. Could you please reimburse me for the lost license?
Them: Ok, please send use the log file so we can verify
Me: Ok, you have email
Them: Ok, here is your replacement license
Me: Thanks!

Now as end users are flashing their cars, such a license issue means that they need to contact their tuner and have them email a new license in order to get a functional car. They cannot flash their ECU back to stock using another flashing tool (or dealership) due to Ecutek write protection. I really don't need to go any further to point out the merits of this approach.

-Shiv

I actually had the same thing happen with one of my first OFT flashes. I think the cable got slightly disconnected or wasn't fully connected to the OBD2 port and halfway through the write process it failed. The motor would try to crank, it would let me use the windows, radio (may the radio did work) and I was pretty scared. I was able to erase the OFT, restore it, and then reflash the stock and everything was fine and I was able to flash the tuned .bin file. I was at work so if I needed to wait for a new license, I would have been screwed.

[Cross]

In my case what happened (as John saw in the log) it completed the flash but then after it was done for some reason decided to flash again. Problem was that was the same time I went to start the car.
The connection was lost and this caused the Configuration ID to go to that weird YYYY one which didn't match my license so no matter what I was stuck. (As the pictures I posted show)

Again I really thank Mike and John. They took excellent care of me.


Sent from Spaceball 1

[gdrider77]

Glad you got it all figured out. I actually had to get on the phone with ECUtek and they remoted into my computer, installed custom recovery software and flashed my ecu back. In my case it was a bad map from a tuner. Corrupted file or something.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The problem here is that there is potential for a lost license during a partial/failed write. And in such the case, a new license must be issued before it allows another flash to be written (recovery). I've dealt with this many times myself when I was an Ecutek dealer. Only back then we only bench-flashed (customer mailed us their ECU so the expected their car to be nonfunctional for a period of time). The following was only visible to myself and Ecutek:

You really try hard to point out every single little flaw from competitors and make it seem an "end of the world" kind of deal.

You are even partially right about some of it, but it just rubs me and others the wrong way. Several people have asked me for tuning recommendations and I've steered them clear of OFT just from your attitude. (I'm sure you will say you don't care).

Now, to level out your story I've flashed my car with Ecutek 123 times to be exact, know a friend who has flashed it 250+ times and two other who are at 150+ and none of us has ever lost the license and needed to contact our master tuner to get one back.

Point being, while possible, it is VERY rare for it to happen.

OFT seems OK for N/A flashes and may upgrade in the future and support software benefits worthy of FI applications, but the advantage Ecutek currently has with the custom maps is light years ahead of anything short of standalone for the 86's.

[jamesm]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

You really try hard to point out every single little flaw from competitors and make it seem an "end of the world" kind of deal.

You are even partially right about some of it, but it just rubs me and others the wrong way. Several people have asked me for tuning recommendations and I've steered them clear of OFT just from your attitude. (I'm sure you will say you don't care).

Now, to level out your story I've flashed my car with Ecutek 123 times to be exact, know a friend who has flashed it 250+ times and two other who are at 150+ and none of us has ever lost the license and needed to contact our master tuner to get one back.

Point being, while possible, it is VERY rare for it to happen.

OFT seems OK for N/A flashes and may upgrade in the future and support software benefits worthy of FI applications, but the advantage Ecutek currently has with the custom maps is light years ahead of anything short of standalone for the 86's.

Yeah i agree this is getting a bit tiresome. The fact of the matter is that when you have no material advantage over the competition, you gotta come up with something to try and distract from that and downplay your own weaknesses.

'No boost cut? Just don't overboost. Flex Fuel? Nah... that's what trims are for. Useful logging? Meh, who needs to log knock parameters anyway? But hey, there's no license!'

It's getting pretty old. Pull yourself up, rather than trying to pull the competition down.

[Shiv@Openflash]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

You really try hard to point out every single little flaw from competitors and make it seem an "end of the world" kind of deal.

You are even partially right about some of it, but it just rubs me and others the wrong way. Several people have asked me for tuning recommendations and I've steered them clear of OFT just from your attitude. (I'm sure you will say you don't care).

Now, to level out your story I've flashed my car with Ecutek 123 times to be exact, know a friend who has flashed it 250+ times and two other who are at 150+ and none of us has ever lost the license and needed to contact our master tuner to get one back.

Point being, while possible, it is VERY rare for it to happen.

OFT seems OK for N/A flashes and may upgrade in the future and support software benefits worthy of FI applications, but the advantage Ecutek currently has with the custom maps is light years ahead of anything short of standalone for the 86's.

We flashed a several hundred ECUs using this license based platform and ran into this problem only a handful of times so I don't disagree that it is a rare occurrence. One that some could even ignore due to low probabilities of it happening to them. But what would happen if this occurred to an end user without internet access? Or on a Sunday without access to his supporting tuner? Who is overwrite protection actually protecting?

During the development process, we have seen our share of issues with the OFT as well. And with each one we run across, we struggle with updates to make sure it doesn't happen again. Or if it did, there are measures in place to make sure it doesn't leave the customer with an inoperable car or with an OFT that can't be sold and installed on another vehicle. I think whatever attitude I possess (perceived or actual) is irrelevant to the discussion.

Originally Posted by jamesm

Yeah i agree this is getting a bit tiresome. The fact of the matter is that when you have no material advantage over the competition, you gotta come up with something to try and distract from that and downplay your own weaknesses.

'No boost cut? Just don't overboost. Flex Fuel? Nah... that's what trims are for. Useful logging? Meh, who needs to log knock parameters anyway? But hey, there's no license!'

It's getting pretty old. Pull yourself up, rather than trying to pull the competition down.

I'll be the first to say that you have a turbo kit, go with a supporting tuner and use whatever tuning platform he is comfortable with. I haven't tuned a turbo kit yet and until I do, I can't throw my hat in the ring. Having overboost cuts and wg control functionality are definite benefits that can't be overlooked or ignored. Short of that, I do struggle with some of the commends made on this forum by those who are invested (either financially or in terms of time spent) with one platform over another. I certainly fall into that category as well but I try very hard to keep my comments factual. Which may be the reason why they annoy people at times.