Lock out shifting from 3rd to Second when cold

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

There is no such thing as second gear lockout.

Typical Tokay post. No useful information, just being contentious when you know what the guy means and he just used an incorrect term.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

Typical Tokay post. No useful information, just being contentious when you know what the guy means and he just used an incorrect term.

Follow me for more tips on using the correct terminology.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Tokay444

Follow me for more tips on using the correct terminology.

Except you never offer the correction

[blsfrs]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

Except you never offer the correction

OP should have said "blocked" out.

Putting a "B" in front of "locked" makes it correct terminology.

See how easy that was?

[RACECAR go brrr!]

Originally Posted by redvee86

I know there is a first gear lock out...

There is no first gear lockout either. You just need more REVs when downshifting

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by RACECAR go brrr!

There is no first gear lockout either. You just need more REVs when downshifting

Incorrect. Look at the parts breakdown in the service manual. There is a first-gear limit mechanism.

Yes, the key is to double-clutch down into first. Be mindful of vehicle speed when doing so.

[RACECAR go brrr!]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Incorrect. Look at the parts breakdown in the service manual. There is a first-gear limit mechanism.

Yes, the key is to double-clutch down into first. Be mindful of vehicle speed when doing so.

Uhh, is mine broken then? Because I've always been able to downshift into 1st gear at any speed without any issues... no double-clutching necessary.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by RACECAR go brrr!

Uhh, is mine broken then? Because I've always been able to downshift into 1st gear at any speed without any issues... no double-clutching necessary.

I've wondered about that since I drove someone else's which behaved like yours. Maybe the limit ball was left out when originally assembled.

[RACECAR go brrr!]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I've wondered about that since I drove someone else's which behaved like yours. Maybe the limit ball was left out when originally assembled.

Hmmmm. At what speed are you limited in downshifting to 1st?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by RACECAR go brrr!

Hmmmm. At what speed are you limited in downshifting to 1st?

It requires a double-clutch blip at anything above 10-ish MPH. I know what you mean. I was shocked when I first encountered one that didn't resist.

[RACECAR go brrr!]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

It requires a double-clutch blip at anything above 10-ish MPH. I know what you mean. I was shocked when I first encountered one that didn't resist.

Hmm. Well here's a video I made many years ago after getting into an argument with someone on Facebook about it, lol. I downshift into 1st at 15 and 20 both without double clutching. I'll also note I had to have a new transmission installed at 40k (because my 5th gear synchro went wonky) and that transmission also doesn't require double clutching. So I'm 2 for 2 on the "defective" 1st gear lockout if that's the case.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I've wondered about that since I drove someone else's which behaved like yours. Maybe the limit ball was left out when originally assembled.

Considering how many times people find ball detents stuck to the drain plug, not surprising It's usually the one on the 3/4 shift fork that is most common due to that fork being able to over travel too far.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

Considering how many times people find ball detents stuck to the drain plug, not surprising It's usually the one on the 3/4 shift fork that is most common due to that fork being able to over travel too far.

Someday I'll crack open my original transmission to shim the input shaft bearing like we discussed. Will be interesting. Both of my transmissions are super picky about downshifting into first.

3/4 rod overtravel? Sounds like I need some schoolin'

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by RACECAR go brrr!

Hmm.

Oh, I believe you for sure. I've driven both flavors.