Sebring 6-8-13 Track Day - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

fldoc · 06-09-2013, 07:05 AM

Shout out to all FR-S/BR-Z's that attended the Chin Motorsports Event this weekend...Dave, N_I_N, Smbstyle and Onealpha's silver BR-Z. Excellent driving and more importantly an increasing track day presence by our cars. MSILE needs to bring his FR-S next time...he brought the wrong Toyota!

[ame]http://youtu.be/JYYxo_V07do[/ame]

jdcorbitt3 · 06-09-2013, 07:47 AM

Nice video.

The last time I was at Sebring at a Chin event was with an NSX. I bought the FR-S with the intent on tracking at Sebring. One of my concerns is the brakes on a big track. We're you on stock brakes?

John

fldoc · 06-09-2013, 08:09 AM

No, I run Carbotech XP10's. But I ran my stock brakes the first time I took her out and they did just fine, just a little fade after 3-4 laps but nothing that wasn't manageable. Just can't run 9/10ths on stock for very long.

Amalgamo · 06-09-2013, 10:50 AM

I was there too with the other white BRZ, but unfortunately needed to leave at noon. Nice time with fellow BRZ/frs owners
Nice meeting you @Dave-ROR as well @N_I_N and @smbstyle in action:
Video 2 @Onealpha

[ame]http://youtu.be/niF4ESxg35k[/ame]
[ame]http://youtu.be/ZJkvHXEM8PI[/ame]

Dave-ROR · 06-09-2013, 03:19 PM

Yeah too bad the clutch took a crap in my ITR. Oh well.. next time.. with one car or the other lol

smbstyle · 06-10-2013, 08:44 AM

love the videos guys; i'll have to post up mine today. Also got some footage of a little tank-slapper at Turn 15. The stock tires are pretty horrific. Big thanks to Dave_ROR for letting me try out his Advans for the day, I really appreciate it.

Had a blast with the car, and did some testing with the @Touge Factory brake cooling kit. No noticeable difference with rotor temps after each session (which is probably due to me having to back off a bit with the cooling ducts blocked off), but a HUGE noticeable difference during the session with brake fade. I could run a session at 10/10ths with no fade on Hawk DTC-60's, but with the ducts blocked off, I would get fade on about lap 3. This is on stock rotors, stock lines.

ATL BRZ · 06-10-2013, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smbstyle

Had a blast with the car, and did some testing with the @Touge Factory brake cooling kit. No noticeable difference with rotor temps after each session (which is probably due to me having to back off a bit with the cooling ducts blocked off), but a HUGE noticeable difference during the session with brake fade. I could run a session at 10/10ths with no fade on Hawk DTC-60's, but with the ducts blocked off, I would get fade on about lap 3. This is on stock rotors, stock lines.

Glad to hear you're also getting good results with the TF brake cooling kit! Question: how did you block them off when testing?

Thanks for the videos, I've enjoyed watching them. I wish Sebring was closer!

smbstyle · 06-10-2013, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

Glad to hear you're also getting good results with the TF brake cooling kit! Question: how did you block them off when testing?

Thanks for the videos, I've enjoyed watching them. I wish Sebring was closer!

Blue tape completely wrapped around the ducts in the front grille so no air could get in.

smbstyle · 06-10-2013, 12:42 PM

Oh, and on the oil temp discussion issue; I bought a ScanGauge II to keep an eye on oil temps, as read by the ECU. Outside temps were about 90*f both Saturday and Sunday. On Saturday, I noticed oil temps creeped up to the 290s, and at the end of a session, it touched 300*. Then on the next day, temps hovered around the 280s and creeped up to 293* max. So oil temps on a bone stock car are definitely an issue, especially on a warm day. Just normal driving to and from the track in the morning/evening oil temps were between 213 and 220.

Here's the best I could do stock, including stock tires (only change is Hawk pads and brake cooling), a 2:48 lap:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiOCbmZ3u2E"]Stock BRZ at Sebring - 2:48 Lap - YouTube[/ame]

Here you can see the tires going off pretty bad after 3 or 4 hard laps:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq5_lOPlNBc"]BRZ at Sebring sliding around - YouTube[/ame]

....And the following lap 5 in Turn 15; a little tank slapper!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNNThK-kU2o"]BRZ at Sebring spin at T15 - YouTube[/ame]

orthojoe · 06-10-2013, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smbstyle

Oh, and on the oil temp discussion issue; I bought a ScanGauge II to keep an eye on oil temps, as read by the ECU. Outside temps were about 90*f both Saturday and Sunday. On Saturday, I noticed oil temps creeped up to the 290s, and at the end of a session, it touched 300*. Then on the next day, temps hovered around the 280s and creeped up to 293* max. So oil temps on a bone stock car are definitely an issue, especially on a warm day. Just normal driving to and from the track in the morning/evening oil temps were between 213 and 220.

....And the following lap 5 in Turn 15; a little tank slapper!

Wow, nice save. We need to start a thread of 360s performed at the track. ;-)

Those oil temps are pretty damn high....

smbstyle · 06-10-2013, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orthojoe

Wow, nice save. We need to start a thread of 360s performed at the track. ;-)

Those oil temps are pretty damn high....

Haha, thanks, I thought I had it for the first like 3 seconds...

Yeah without the Scangauge I'd have no idea the car was running that hot; water temp was solid all day. I'm wondering first, where the stock gauge is reading from, and if that has any bearing on it. But an oil cooler is definitely on the list.

orthojoe · 06-10-2013, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smbstyle

Yeah without the Scangauge I'd have no idea the car was running that hot; water temp was solid all day. I'm wondering first, where the stock gauge is reading from, and if that has any bearing on it. But an oil cooler is definitely on the list.

It is a little odd that the coolant temps are solid but the oil temps are rising out of control. Usualy when oil temps are out of control, you'll see a subsequent rise in coolant temps as well. It does also make me wonder where the stock probe is reading from and how accurate it is.

Dave-ROR · 06-11-2013, 11:48 AM

wow nice spin

not the nicest place to spin though...

Onealpha · 06-11-2013, 01:07 PM

Thanks fldoc, smbstyle, and Amalgamo for the video. I will post some video later also. I am sorry I did not get to meet any of you guys. The whole day just flew by. After each session I kept thinking I would have time to walk around and visit, but there was always something that had to be done before the next session. Before I knew it the day was over and I was driving home exhausted with a big smile on my face. My instructor was fldoc and he did a great job of showing me the ropes. A big thank you fldoc. It was a really nice day and thank God the rain held off as long as it did.

06-09-2013, 07:05 AM	#1
fldoc Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Whiteout Location: Florida Posts: 27 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sebring 6-8-13 Track Day Shout out to all FR-S/BR-Z's that attended the Chin Motorsports Event this weekend...Dave, N_I_N, Smbstyle and Onealpha's silver BR-Z. Excellent driving and more importantly an increasing track day presence by our cars. MSILE needs to bring his FR-S next time...he brought the wrong Toyota! [ame]http://youtu.be/JYYxo_V07do[/ame] __________________ _____________________________ -Ramon '10 GT3 (gone but not forgotten), '12 GT-R Black Edition, '13 FR-S Last edited by fldoc; 06-09-2013 at 08:34 AM.

06-09-2013, 08:09 AM	#3
fldoc Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Whiteout Location: Florida Posts: 27 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No, I run Carbotech XP10's. But I ran my stock brakes the first time I took her out and they did just fine, just a little fade after 3-4 laps but nothing that wasn't manageable. Just can't run 9/10ths on stock for very long. __________________ _____________________________ -Ramon '10 GT3 (gone but not forgotten), '12 GT-R Black Edition, '13 FR-S

06-09-2013, 10:50 AM	#4
Amalgamo Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: SWP BRZ Limited Location: SW Florida Posts: 112 Thanks: 19 Thanked 40 Times in 30 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I was there too with the other white BRZ, but unfortunately needed to leave at noon. Nice time with fellow BRZ/frs owners Nice meeting you @Dave-ROR as well @N_I_N and @smbstyle in action: Video 2 @Onealpha [ame]http://youtu.be/niF4ESxg35k[/ame] [ame]http://youtu.be/ZJkvHXEM8PI[/ame] __________________ 12 SWP BRZ-L Last edited by Amalgamo; 06-09-2013 at 11:38 AM.

06-09-2013, 03:19 PM	#5
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	Yeah too bad the clutch took a crap in my ITR. Oh well.. next time.. with one car or the other lol __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

06-10-2013, 08:44 AM	#6
smbstyle Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Location: Forsyth, GA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 224 Thanked 681 Times in 302 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	love the videos guys; i'll have to post up mine today. Also got some footage of a little tank-slapper at Turn 15. The stock tires are pretty horrific. Big thanks to Dave_ROR for letting me try out his Advans for the day, I really appreciate it. Had a blast with the car, and did some testing with the @Touge Factory brake cooling kit. No noticeable difference with rotor temps after each session (which is probably due to me having to back off a bit with the cooling ducts blocked off), but a HUGE noticeable difference during the session with brake fade. I could run a session at 10/10ths with no fade on Hawk DTC-60's, but with the ducts blocked off, I would get fade on about lap 3. This is on stock rotors, stock lines. Last edited by smbstyle; 06-10-2013 at 11:45 AM.

06-09-2013, 07:47 AM	#2
jdcorbitt3 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 red FR-S, OFT. 2000 Miata SE Location: Ocala Posts: 110 Thanks: 22 Thanked 50 Times in 28 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Nice video. The last time I was at Sebring at a Chin event was with an NSX. I bought the FR-S with the intent on tracking at Sebring. One of my concerns is the brakes on a big track. We're you on stock brakes? John

06-10-2013, 12:42 PM	#9
smbstyle Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2013 SWP BRZ Location: Forsyth, GA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 224 Thanked 681 Times in 302 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Oh, and on the oil temp discussion issue; I bought a ScanGauge II to keep an eye on oil temps, as read by the ECU. Outside temps were about 90f both Saturday and Sunday. On Saturday, I noticed oil temps creeped up to the 290s, and at the end of a session, it touched 300. Then on the next day, temps hovered around the 280s and creeped up to 293* max. So oil temps on a bone stock car are definitely an issue, especially on a warm day. Just normal driving to and from the track in the morning/evening oil temps were between 213 and 220. Here's the best I could do stock, including stock tires (only change is Hawk pads and brake cooling), a 2:48 lap: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiOCbmZ3u2E"]Stock BRZ at Sebring - 2:48 Lap - YouTube[/ame] Here you can see the tires going off pretty bad after 3 or 4 hard laps: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq5_lOPlNBc"]BRZ at Sebring sliding around - YouTube[/ame] ....And the following lap 5 in Turn 15; a little tank slapper! [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNNThK-kU2o"]BRZ at Sebring spin at T15 - YouTube[/ame]

06-11-2013, 11:48 AM	#13
Dave-ROR Site Moderator Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: Stuff Location: Florida Posts: 10,317 Thanks: 955 Thanked 5,965 Times in 2,689 Posts Mentioned: 262 Post(s) Tagged: 8 Thread(s)	wow nice spin not the nicest place to spin though... __________________ -Dave Track cars: 2013 Scion FRS, 1998 Acura Integra Type-R, 1993 Honda Civic Hatchback DD: 2005 Acura TSX Tow: 2022 F-450 Toys: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1994 Toyota MR2 Turbo, 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 Parts: 2015 Subaru BRZ Limited, 2005 Acura TSX Projects: 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited track car build FS: 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 LT CCSB 8.1/Allison with 99k miles

06-11-2013, 01:07 PM	#14
Onealpha Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Location: USA Posts: 79 Thanks: 15 Thanked 35 Times in 22 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks fldoc, smbstyle, and Amalgamo for the video. I will post some video later also. I am sorry I did not get to meet any of you guys. The whole day just flew by. After each session I kept thinking I would have time to walk around and visit, but there was always something that had to be done before the next session. Before I knew it the day was over and I was driving home exhausted with a big smile on my face. My instructor was fldoc and he did a great job of showing me the ropes. A big thank you fldoc. It was a really nice day and thank God the rain held off as long as it did. Last edited by Onealpha; 06-11-2013 at 01:29 PM.

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