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fldoc 06-09-2013 07:05 AM

Sebring 6-8-13 Track Day
 
Shout out to all FR-S/BR-Z's that attended the Chin Motorsports Event this weekend...Dave, N_I_N, Smbstyle and Onealpha's silver BR-Z. Excellent driving and more importantly an increasing track day presence by our cars. MSILE needs to bring his FR-S next time...he brought the wrong Toyota!

[ame]http://youtu.be/JYYxo_V07do[/ame]

jdcorbitt3 06-09-2013 07:47 AM

Nice video.

The last time I was at Sebring at a Chin event was with an NSX. I bought the FR-S with the intent on tracking at Sebring. One of my concerns is the brakes on a big track. We're you on stock brakes?

John

fldoc 06-09-2013 08:09 AM

No, I run Carbotech XP10's. But I ran my stock brakes the first time I took her out and they did just fine, just a little fade after 3-4 laps but nothing that wasn't manageable. Just can't run 9/10ths on stock for very long.

Amalgamo 06-09-2013 10:50 AM

I was there too with the other white BRZ, but unfortunately needed to leave at noon. Nice time with fellow BRZ/frs owners
Nice meeting you @Dave-ROR as well @N_I_N and @smbstyle in action:
Video 2 @Onealpha





[ame]http://youtu.be/niF4ESxg35k[/ame]
[ame]http://youtu.be/ZJkvHXEM8PI[/ame]

Dave-ROR 06-09-2013 03:19 PM

Yeah too bad the clutch took a crap in my ITR. Oh well.. next time.. with one car or the other lol

smbstyle 06-10-2013 08:44 AM

love the videos guys; i'll have to post up mine today. Also got some footage of a little tank-slapper at Turn 15. The stock tires are pretty horrific. Big thanks to Dave_ROR for letting me try out his Advans for the day, I really appreciate it.

Had a blast with the car, and did some testing with the @Touge Factory brake cooling kit. No noticeable difference with rotor temps after each session (which is probably due to me having to back off a bit with the cooling ducts blocked off), but a HUGE noticeable difference during the session with brake fade. I could run a session at 10/10ths with no fade on Hawk DTC-60's, but with the ducts blocked off, I would get fade on about lap 3. This is on stock rotors, stock lines.

ATL BRZ 06-10-2013 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smbstyle (Post 992625)
Had a blast with the car, and did some testing with the @Touge Factory brake cooling kit. No noticeable difference with rotor temps after each session (which is probably due to me having to back off a bit with the cooling ducts blocked off), but a HUGE noticeable difference during the session with brake fade. I could run a session at 10/10ths with no fade on Hawk DTC-60's, but with the ducts blocked off, I would get fade on about lap 3. This is on stock rotors, stock lines.

Glad to hear you're also getting good results with the TF brake cooling kit! Question: how did you block them off when testing?

Thanks for the videos, I've enjoyed watching them. I wish Sebring was closer!

smbstyle 06-10-2013 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 992739)
Glad to hear you're also getting good results with the TF brake cooling kit! Question: how did you block them off when testing?

Thanks for the videos, I've enjoyed watching them. I wish Sebring was closer!

Blue tape completely wrapped around the ducts in the front grille so no air could get in.

smbstyle 06-10-2013 12:42 PM

Oh, and on the oil temp discussion issue; I bought a ScanGauge II to keep an eye on oil temps, as read by the ECU. Outside temps were about 90*f both Saturday and Sunday. On Saturday, I noticed oil temps creeped up to the 290s, and at the end of a session, it touched 300*. Then on the next day, temps hovered around the 280s and creeped up to 293* max. So oil temps on a bone stock car are definitely an issue, especially on a warm day. Just normal driving to and from the track in the morning/evening oil temps were between 213 and 220.

Here's the best I could do stock, including stock tires (only change is Hawk pads and brake cooling), a 2:48 lap:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiOCbmZ3u2E"]Stock BRZ at Sebring - 2:48 Lap - YouTube[/ame]



Here you can see the tires going off pretty bad after 3 or 4 hard laps:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq5_lOPlNBc"]BRZ at Sebring sliding around - YouTube[/ame]



....And the following lap 5 in Turn 15; a little tank slapper!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNNThK-kU2o"]BRZ at Sebring spin at T15 - YouTube[/ame]

orthojoe 06-10-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smbstyle (Post 992952)
Oh, and on the oil temp discussion issue; I bought a ScanGauge II to keep an eye on oil temps, as read by the ECU. Outside temps were about 90*f both Saturday and Sunday. On Saturday, I noticed oil temps creeped up to the 290s, and at the end of a session, it touched 300*. Then on the next day, temps hovered around the 280s and creeped up to 293* max. So oil temps on a bone stock car are definitely an issue, especially on a warm day. Just normal driving to and from the track in the morning/evening oil temps were between 213 and 220.


....And the following lap 5 in Turn 15; a little tank slapper!

BRZ at Sebring spin at T15 - YouTube

Wow, nice save. We need to start a thread of 360s performed at the track. ;-)

Those oil temps are pretty damn high....

smbstyle 06-10-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orthojoe (Post 993025)
Wow, nice save. We need to start a thread of 360s performed at the track. ;-)

Those oil temps are pretty damn high....

Haha, thanks, I thought I had it for the first like 3 seconds...

Yeah without the Scangauge I'd have no idea the car was running that hot; water temp was solid all day. I'm wondering first, where the stock gauge is reading from, and if that has any bearing on it. But an oil cooler is definitely on the list.

orthojoe 06-10-2013 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smbstyle (Post 993060)
Yeah without the Scangauge I'd have no idea the car was running that hot; water temp was solid all day. I'm wondering first, where the stock gauge is reading from, and if that has any bearing on it. But an oil cooler is definitely on the list.

It is a little odd that the coolant temps are solid but the oil temps are rising out of control. Usualy when oil temps are out of control, you'll see a subsequent rise in coolant temps as well. It does also make me wonder where the stock probe is reading from and how accurate it is.

Dave-ROR 06-11-2013 11:48 AM

wow nice spin :) not the nicest place to spin though...

Onealpha 06-11-2013 01:07 PM

Thanks fldoc, smbstyle, and Amalgamo for the video. I will post some video later also. I am sorry I did not get to meet any of you guys. The whole day just flew by. After each session I kept thinking I would have time to walk around and visit, but there was always something that had to be done before the next session. Before I knew it the day was over and I was driving home exhausted with a big smile on my face. My instructor was fldoc and he did a great job of showing me the ropes. A big thank you fldoc. It was a really nice day and thank God the rain held off as long as it did.


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