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Old 12-15-2011, 08:40 PM   #15
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Buying online charges you a 750 dollar destination fee, so its a bit more expensive than picking one up from the dealer
Also, interest can still be haggled.
I can deal with that if I can do what I want, and if I can get a special edition that way.
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:25 PM   #16
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I can deal with that if I can do what I want, and if I can get a special edition that way.
I agree. $750 is a small price to pay to get exactly what I want in my car. Unless of course there is one on the lot that has what I want.
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Buying online charges you a 750 dollar destination fee, so its a bit more expensive than picking one up from the dealer
Also, interest can still be haggled.
the destination fee is included in the sticker price at the dealer. you wont see a tc on the lot for $19,305
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Old 12-15-2011, 10:17 PM   #18
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Actually this is not how it works...


Scion Pure Pricing just means that the dealer has to sell the car at what they advertise, and that they are all priced the same at that dealer... Toyota doesnt care what that number is...

I could sell a FR-S at $55,000, if I advertise it as such and all of them at my dealership were priced at that price...
Vise Versa, I could sell it at $15,000 as long as I advertise all of them at $15,000...

"Internet" price = in store price = selling price

Dealers that mark up or mark down a Scion is just plain stupid though... Marking them up would mean that the consumer would just skip them and go to the next dealership that sold them at MSRP. Selling them for below MSRP would just be a loss to the dealership... dumb either way...




You sure can. But keep in mind that no options also means no floor mats... most Scion dealers "include" floormats... but they are really just selling you the car + floor mats at about $189 more than just the car...
Exactly, the selling price MUST match the posted price and be the same price for everyone. The same goes for finance rates, extended warranties, GAP insurance, and accessories.

My dealership marked down our last 2011 tC when we didn't sell it before we got 3-4 2012 tC's in. We posted the price in our showroom on the menus and on our website.

I can't speak for all dealerships, but mine will only add around $1,000 or less of accessories to a car that we have in stock and we only do it to one that we have in our showroom. The accessories are usually rear spoiler, body graphic, and floor mats. The one in our showroom now is a RS 7.0 with fog lights, body graphic & floor mats

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the destination fee is included in the sticker price at the dealer. you wont see a tc on the lot for $19,305
I have one on my lot right now that is that exact price. My inventory guy tries to get all Scions in that are stripped. If anything, floor mats will be on the car and they cost $184 so your AT will be $20,489 & manual is $19,489.

When too many accessories are added, it makes the car more difficult to sell because it lessens the number of people that would be interested in the car. It could be just one thing that someone doesn't like and they won't buy the car so we have to get them one with nothing on it and add the options that that particular customer wants, if any.

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How often can the dealer change the posted price? For example can they charge $2K over sticker when they first come out, drop it to $1K over sticker a couple months later, etc?
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"Our goal from the start was to change the conventions of the auto industry. We set out to create an affordable, unique & sophisticated vehicle. We wanted to create a new environment for people to purchase a car in - the kind of place where you're not sold a car, but rather where you would go to buy a car. Simple, straightforward & convenient - that's Pure Price.Here's how it's done: Scion's Pure Price purchase experience means no haggle, no hassle. The price you pay for all products and services offered equals the dealership's posted and advertised price.*Price menus*are clearly posted in the dealership showroom for all products and services. Dealers are free to set their own prices."
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Its same idea as going to walmart, you don't haggle at the checkout for a lower price, you pay the pice it is listed at. That price can change, but in order for walmart to stay competitive it must be lower or equal than other stores.
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From scion website.
"Dealers are free to set their own prices"

So expect some markup.
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"Dealers are free to set their own prices"

So expect some markup.
No different than what Subaru dealers will mark up, its all down to supply and demand.
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No different than what Subaru dealers will mark up, its all down to supply and demand.
But Subbie you can haggle.
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But Subbie you can haggle.
VIP all the way for Subaru
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Old 12-16-2011, 12:57 AM   #27
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But Subbie you can haggle.
In Canada this point is sooo moot as unless you can haggle them about 6-8k since thats the usually mark up we get from the US prices

this one fact is why I am getting the FRS over the BRZ (well the FRS front is much more aggressive as well)
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Dealers can choose to not honor VIP pricing for certain Subaru models btw.

As for pricing - when the new Mini Cooper first came out, my dealer was very proud to say they aren't bumping up the price for market adjustment, but did require that you purchase any 2 dealer accessories from a special list. Each was $750 - so they were bumping the price $1,500 but you got to choose some goodies at least. We could only hope to be so lucky when the FRS comes out.
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