oil filter shenanigans

[AZP Installs]

Originally Posted by kroarke

Just talked to the my service rep about this today. Wanted the red STI filter but apparently they can't get that. You need the black filter. Not the blue one. He made a comment about how the black ones are used on the V6 SUVs and the BRZ. Their other 4 cylinders get the blue one.

Just an FYI Subaru doesn't make any V motors. The filters are the same as the H6 motors found in the Outback, Legacy and Tribeca.



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[kroarke]

Originally Posted by AZP Installs

Just an FYI Subaru doesn't make any V motors. The filters are the same as the H6 motors found in the Outback, Legacy and Tribeca.



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Hahaha. I don't know why I wrote that. I meant H6 for sure.

[kroarke]

But yea I'm pretty sure it has to do with NA vs FI

[Laika]

The 15208AA15A oil filter is made by Honeywell who apparently makes Fram filters as well. Fram filters are generally not highly regarded. The 15208AA130 on the other hand is made by Tokyo Roki in Japan. In my personal and possibly nutty opinion, I would not run anything but the 130. 160 maybe if it came down to it. Maybe I should just buy a pallet of the 130's in case there's ever a shortage.

If you go to parts.com and enter in 15208AA130, it'll return you with a handsome price for what is actually the 15208AA15A filter

Subaruonlineparts.com sells them for $72.43 for a case of 12 with crush rings ($6.04 for 1x oil filter and 1x crush ring) + the cost of shipping.

Answering all the questions that no one asked!

Here's some info I copied from a user on NAZIOC (all credit to him/her).

Tokyo Roki 15208AA160

Specs:

OD: 86.25mm
Length: 70.18mm
Thread: M20x1.5, Roll-formed
Spring type: Stamped leaf
Bypass Valve: 23 PSID, Metal valve integrated into the end cap on the dome end.
Anti Drain Back Valve: Yes, Nitrile
Media type: Paper
Media Surface area: 1,092cm2
Beta Ratio: Unknown
Flow Rate: Unknown
Gasket style: "P" ring
Oil inlet hole/s area: Six 6.25mm holes. 184.07mm2 total area.
End caps: Metal
Can side thickness: .44mm

Honeywell/Subaru 15208AA15A (blue filter)


Specs:

OD: 67.9mm
Length: 86.9mm
Thread: M20x1.5, Roll-formed
Spring type: Stamped leaf
Bypass Valve: 23.2 PSID, Plastic, located in the stamped spring, positioned at the end cap on the dome end
Anti Drain Back Valve: Yes, Nitrile
Media type: Paper
Media Surface area: 837cm2
Beta Ratio: Unknown
Flow Rate: Unknown
Gasket style: "P" ring
Oil inlet hole/s area: Ten 5mm holes. 196.34mm2.
End caps: Engineered media
Can side thickness: .37mm

[BRZnut]

Just returned from my Subaru dealer for my first oil change and they used the black filter..15208AA130

[Bt216]

I bought a mobil 1 filter and is smaller.. the original black filer is bigger..is it better?

[kombatlion]

Originally Posted by Bt216

I bought a mobil 1 filter and is smaller.. the original black filer is bigger..is it better?

So far for what they have told me here in the forum yes the original is better,,, now the question is

Original,,,HKS or Greddy?

[SkullWorks]

Originally Posted by kombatlion

So far for what they have told me here in the forum yes the original is better,,, now the question is

Original,,,HKS or Greddy?

Why do people always want to assume the JDM tuners know more than companies that actually design and engineer products?

At no point should you buy something that has been bought in bulk and rebranded unless you know who made the original, and even then why would you happily pay someone elsr for the courtesy of rebranding aother's product.

HKS GREDDY and the likes DO NOT MAKE OIL FILTERS.....and if they did they would suck. All you are doing is throwing (too much) money at a brand name and getting an unknown product in return, or even if it is a known product from a known manufacturer you are getting taken because you will be paying extra for the box and the sticker...

[kombatlion]

Originally Posted by SkullWorks

Why do people always want to assume the JDM tuners know more than companies that actually design and engineer products?

At no point should you buy something that has been bought in bulk and rebranded unless you know who made the original, and even then why would you happily pay someone elsr for the courtesy of rebranding aother's product.

HKS GREDDY and the likes DO NOT MAKE OIL FILTERS.....and if they did they would suck. All you are doing is throwing (too much) money at a brand name and getting an unknown product in return, or even if it is a known product from a known manufacturer you are getting taken because you will be paying extra for the box and the sticker...

Like!!!!

[AZP Installs]

Originally Posted by SkullWorks

Why do people always want to assume the JDM tuners know more than companies that actually design and engineer products?

At no point should you buy something that has been bought in bulk and rebranded unless you know who made the original, and even then why would you happily pay someone elsr for the courtesy of rebranding aother's product.

HKS GREDDY and the likes DO NOT MAKE OIL FILTERS.....and if they did they would suck. All you are doing is throwing (too much) money at a brand name and getting an unknown product in return, or even if it is a known product from a known manufacturer you are getting taken because you will be paying extra for the box and the sticker...

Well said!

-mike

[Myv]

+1 just get the original filter, unless you are doing some car show I can see why you'd want brand name for the look.

Went to buy a filter at the dealership today, they picked up the blue one for me, I just asked for the black 130, easy and fast. He did ask me if I was sure if it'd fit? Well of course it would, car freaking came with it... he exchanged it fast though and noted that he knew what part I was talking about, so I'm pretty sure another BRZ owner asked for the same thing.

[Khazzy]

Originally Posted by Myv

+1 just get the original filter, unless you are doing some car show I can see why you'd want brand name for the look.

Went to buy a filter at the dealership today, they picked up the blue one for me, I just asked for the black 130, easy and fast. He did ask me if I was sure if it'd fit? Well of course it would, car freaking came with it... he exchanged it fast though and noted that he knew what part I was talking about, so I'm pretty sure another BRZ owner asked for the same thing.

Yeah I got it all sorted out and the 130 filter is back on it. I pointed out the service bulletins they showed me were for a completely different car. SOA also called them again and let them know that there was no change in filter parts for the BRZ.

Needless to say, helped out fellow BRZ owners in the area. I actually like this dealership's service department. They do a good job and fast too.

[ft_sjo]

So which one is SU003-00311?

[pitstops]

check out this post, its the best oil filter test out there. http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-eng...63t-4b11t.html