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Khazzy 05-29-2013 11:43 AM
oil filter shenanigans
 
I need some answers if anyone has insight on this since I guess the oil section of the forum doesn't get answered very often.

So got my second oil change done at the dealer per my free changes. Come to find out this time the oil filter was different. Last three to my knowledge should be 130 or the 160 superseded one. I have a 15A in there which their parts department is telling me was the one that superseded the 130. SOA told me this morning that it is 130 and should only be the 130 per their service tech's. Something is going on and I want to take SOA's side...

I told the dealer that 130 should be the correct filter per SOA. Their techs are under the assumption it is now the 15A. Is anyone else getting the same blue oil filter?

s0sl0w 05-29-2013 11:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Khazzy (Post 966727)
I need some answers if anyone has insight on this since I guess the oil section of the forum doesn't get answered very often.

So got my second oil change done at the dealer per my free changes. Come to find out this time the oil filter was different. Last three to my knowledge should be 130 or the 160 superseded one. I have a 15A in there which their parts department is telling me was the one that superseded the 130. SOA told me this morning that it is 130 and should only be the 130 per their service tech's. Something is going on and I want to take SOA's side...

I told the dealer that 130 should be the correct filter per SOA. Their techs are under the assumption it is now the 15A. Is anyone else getting the same blue oil filter?
I did my own oil change but when I went to the dealer they tried to hand me the taller thinner blue filter, I brought it to their attention and they said it was universal for all the 0w-20 engines. I made them take it back and get me the right filter.

chenshuo 05-29-2013 11:47 AM
The new filter has part number end with an "A". I think it's also bigger. I just got my oil changed last weekend and that's what i have. However, mine is black, not blue.

Khazzy 05-29-2013 11:58 AM
it is a tall filter that is skinnier.

Update: SOA comes through yet again told me they talked to the manager at the service department and said I can come by whenever to swap the filters. I knew something was fishy.

Khazzy 05-29-2013 12:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chenshuo (Post 966738)
The new filter has part number end with an "A". I think it's also bigger. I just got my oil changed last weekend and that's what i have. However, mine is black, not blue.
The taller black filter should be a 160 filter. The 15A filter is the blue one.

LeeMaster 05-29-2013 12:08 PM
Anyone know why they switched filters? They have got to have a good reason for this

Khazzy 05-29-2013 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LeeMaster (Post 966808)
Anyone know why they switched filters? They have got to have a good reason for this
SOA is telling me they are supposed to be using the 130 filter. So no changes. Only thing I can think of is the dealer wanting to spend less money on cheaper filters which the blue ones are.

Sevs753 05-29-2013 12:34 PM
When i bought a filter from the dealer, he looked the BRZ up on the computer and got my a 130 filter. Black filter made by Tokyo Roki. No mention of another filter. It sounds like maybe your dealer is trying to save money by just buying one filter in bulk.

BRZfan 05-29-2013 12:46 PM
FYI
I do not get "free" oil changes but this first one was at no charge (dealer courtesy) and was at the first engine oil change (3000 mileage). Current mileage is 5500.

The part number used was 15208AA130 (Tokyo Roki, Ltd.) and it is black in color.

UPDATE: The filter used for my dealer oil change is same as originallly supplied with vehicle. (I checked a showroom BRZ at my local dealer to confirm)

BRZfan 05-29-2013 12:50 PM
Did you get your oil & filter change at a dealer?
Quote:
Originally Posted by chenshuo (Post 966738)
The new filter has part number end with an "A". I think it's also bigger. I just got my oil changed last weekend and that's what i have. However, mine is black, not blue.

jeebus 05-29-2013 01:02 PM
on the plus side, it's super easy to swap the filter without losing a drop of oil or even getting dirty ;)

chenshuo 05-29-2013 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BRZfan (Post 966961)
Did you get your oil & filter change at a dealer?
nope. i got it changed at iGarage by Ivan. He told me Subaru changed the filter for the BRZ/FRS.

Tromatic 05-29-2013 01:25 PM
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12392

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Originally Posted by KSC (Post 809193)
THIS is the filter you want. The Subaru 15208AA130 is the black "Made in Japan" filter manufactured by Tokyo Roki and the very same filter that came on your car from the factory. The blue one (some) dealers try to give out is the cheap piece of shit made by Fram.

You can also use the taller 160, but I see no reason to change. Not exactly sure where kharn83 is getting his info, but AFAIK, there is nothing wrong with the 130's. If there were, I would imagine someone would have alerted us to change it and that new cars wouldn't still come with 130's.

In any event, buy the filters at Subaru. I'm told Toyota are just reboxing the same filter and charging more money for it. 130's are still available, they are the same filter used pn the 2.2 NA Foresters.

kroarke 05-30-2013 01:55 AM
Just talked to the my service rep about this today. Wanted the red STI filter but apparently they can't get that. You need the black filter. Not the blue one. He made a comment about how the black ones are used on the H6 SUVs and the BRZ. Their other 4 cylinders get the blue one.


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