2013 SCCA Solo Spring Nationals, Lincoln, NE

[Scooby South]

nope full dry with heat...^^^^

Bill

[trippinbillies40]

Originally Posted by Scooby South

Just some observations:
-Andrews car was the only one on E85..
-for the Pro , Andrew was on launch control, launching about 4k
-Hankooks vs.the rest.
-loading up the class with known high-profile drivers trying to prove something isnt healthy for our cars cause in STX. and could backfire sending us to STR.
-correct setup is crutial for the twins to do well, as they respond very well to those changes for the most part.
-passing 250 runs now on developement, and starting to get some things figured out.
-congrats to Andrew and the whole Stranoparts gang for a sweep. Iinteresting strategy.

Not sure what "strategy" you're referring to? Danny and I were out of rides, mine due to a car failure as I stated in another thread, and Sam was kind enough to let me drive. I can 100% promise you the only "strategy" he had was playing the role of crack dealer to someone he knows owns a stock FRS right now, haha. And I'm certainly not a high profile driver. I've been getting my ass handed to me all year, I just pulled out a couple flyers this weekend.

I don't see what the worry is on a class bump. I think it's extremely unlikely to happen (especially sans E85), and if it does, it'll be because the car is proven to be able to keep up. If that's the case, what's the big deal? When nationals rolls around, I think you'll see things be quite a bit tighter than they were this past weekend. You could put Heitkotter on a golf cart and he'd be competitive in STX. The E36 is still the car to worry about.

As for E85... That had VERY little to do with the gap from Andrew to me. The suspension on both cars was identical, even own to making identical changes on our last run on Monday. If you watch my videos, I made mistakes on both days, big enough to cover most of that gap. Andrew's just that good.

[Scooby South]

Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

Not sure what "strategy" you're referring to? Danny and I were out of rides, mine due to a car failure as I stated in another thread, and Sam was kind enough to let me drive. I can 100% promise you the only "strategy" he had was playing the role of crack dealer to someone he knows owns a stock FRS right now, haha. And I'm certainly not a high profile driver. I've been getting my ass handed to me all year, I just pulled out a couple flyers this weekend.

I don't see what the worry is on a class bump. I think it's extremely unlikely to happen (especially sans E85), and if it does, it'll be because the car is proven to be able to keep up. If that's the case, what's the big deal? When nationals rolls around, I think you'll see things be quite a bit tighter than they were this past weekend. You could put Heitkotter on a golf cart and he'd be competitive in STX. The E36 is still the car to worry about.

As for E85... That had VERY little to do with the gap from Andrew to me. The suspension on both cars was identical, even own to making identical changes on our last run on Monday. If you watch my videos, I made mistakes on both days, big enough to cover most of that gap. Andrew's just that good.

I didn't mean that negatively.... and I understand the "business" end of things as well... I just found it interesting is all. .. again those were my personal observations..

Bill

[Simmons]

Originally Posted by Scooby South

Just some observations:
-Andrews car was the only one on E85..
-for the Pro , Andrew was on launch control, launching about 4k
-Hankooks vs.the rest.
-loading up the class with known high-profile drivers trying to prove something isnt healthy for our cars cause in STX. and could backfire sending us to STR.
-correct setup is crutial for the twins to do well, as they respond very well to those changes for the most part.
-passing 250 runs now on developement, and starting to get some things figured out.
-congrats to Andrew and the whole Stranoparts gang for a sweep. Iinteresting strategy.

I think a header is worth more then e85. e85 helps but it not as big of a gap as the results showed. That was mainly driver.

Simmons

[Scooby South]

^^^ This I definitely agree with..

Bill

[Scooby South]

I learned Fast is not necessarily comfortable..and the other way also.. Comfortable is not necessarily fast.. need to get 'more' comfortable with being fast...

[BadPanda]

Write up for driving the car at the Pro/Tour with Bill. It was a blast. Lots of tidbits on setup that I learned, first time in RWD in a National event (and I think it was only my 3rd event ever driving in RWD). Came from an 06 STI, just trying to figure it out now.

http://christycarlson.com/solo-natio...-ne-brz-setup/

[Hi, Christy Carlson here. Subie owner. Hello FT86Club!]



The Conditions for the Ladies at the Pro (L3) (and the Second day of the tour) - Hello ocean of concrete.

[trippinbillies40]

Originally Posted by Scooby South

I learned Fast is not necessarily comfortable..and the other way also.. Comfortable is not necessarily fast.. need to get 'more' comfortable with being fast...

I totally underdrove my first run, then said to hell with that. There were spots on both courses that you just needed to man-handle to get a good time. I had major slides on my first two runs on day two after the walloms. Brushed the brakes after them on my third run to set weight on the front and threw the car in. Worked like a charm.

Here's my runs by the way:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlWh0uL7g3c"]2013 Spring Nats Champ Tour - YouTube[/ame]

I'll make a "f$ck-up compilation" when I get a chance. The closet formula-D driver in me accidentally came out a few times haha.

[Kido1986]

Holy shit that's some fast driving. Congrats on that.

[trippinbillies40]

Originally Posted by Kido1986

Holy shit that's some fast driving. Congrats on that.

I think you meant that comment for Pallotta

But seriously, thanks, I appreciate the compliment!

[Kido1986]

How does the experience translate from RT* to ST* in the same chassis? Does it feel foreign or just faster and grippier but same behavior?

[Sccabrz192]

Originally Posted by Scooby South

I learned Fast is not necessarily comfortable..and the other way also.. Comfortable is not necessarily fast.. need to get 'more' comfortable with being fast...

Rule of thumb, if your hands aren't shaking after your run, you werent pushing it hard enough!

[xwd]

Andrew could have been driving the car on RS3s, Z2s, or Rivals and the result would have been the same. From all I've seen all three of them are really close unless you talking rain/standing water or extreme temp conditions.

I also agree with Eric, if he had been on 93 octane he would have still won.

I definitely have a case of not pushing hard enough. These cars when setup well are incredible stable and a small slide of the rear end isn't a big deal most of the time. I got a chance to watch a video from our last event of my fastest run versus another Pro guy also running in CS (RX8) and he was a second faster than me through a long 4-cone slalom. My video looks like I was out for a Sunday drive, should have been pushing much harder, the car definitely had it in it.

The results I thought were the most impressive was the hurting the DSP guys put on SM.

[trippinbillies40]

Originally Posted by Kido1986

How does the experience translate from RT* to ST* in the same chassis? Does it feel foreign or just faster and grippier but same behavior?

I guess it's not worlds apart, but STX is definitely noticeably better. It's more composed, mid-corner grip is much higher, turn-in is sharper, etc etc etc. Everything is 10-20% better as a single component, and all together they just seem MUCH better.

Originally Posted by Sccabrz192

Rule of thumb, if your hands aren't shaking after your run, you werent pushing it hard enough!

I love that feeling. Danny was making fun of me because I was trying to put Sam's key back on his keychain after my last run on Monday and I couldn't because my hands were shaking so bad.

Originally Posted by dwx

Andrew could have been driving the car on RS3s, Z2s, or Rivals and the result would have been the same. From all I've seen all three of them are really close unless you talking rain/standing water or extreme temp conditions.


The results I thought were the most impressive was the hurting the DSP guys put on SM.

I've driven on all 3 and now regret having bought Rivals for my car before really driving on them much.

I was lucky enough to drive Eric's car last year. If "driving pleasure" is measured on a scale of one to ten, out of the tons of cars I've driven, his car is an 11 and the next closest is probably a 6... So mindlessly easy to drive really, really fast.