Most reliable fun car you can get at a comparable price (~25k).

[Trojan_SC]

Mini Cooper S?

[chickdigger802]

ooh mean new :P

Was actually thinking about getting a used NC miata as well because they are pretty cheap, and people don't tend to abuse them if they are still stock... but the iffy trunk space and not particularly a big fan of convertibles and the way how miatas look. :P

mini cooper? I always heard they were a pain to own, have they gotten more reliable recently?

[DylanFRS]

New Mini Cooper S = Not Reliable

For 25k and fun, the Focus ST would also be cool. I know I know "OMG! FWD! KILL HIM! FWD IS THE DEVIL! RWD FOR LIFE! ETC! ETC!" but I think being able to come out of a corner and actually mash the gas pedal to the floor and then actually having to use your neck muscles from the feel of the torque is fun in its own way. RWD is fun when you're slipping the tail out but how often do we really get to do that on our every day drives? I will on occasion but it elicits some serious attention and not in a good way more like a "that crazy guy is out of control and going to kill us all!" kind of way because people are boring and get angry at things they don't understand.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by whaap

Wow were you ever taken! If I had paid any where near that much for my FR-S the last thing I would do is admit it. Mine was $27,070.93 with wheel locks out the door. Yes, that included everything.

Is this "whaap" from miata.net .... ??

Good day to ya .....

I'm sure liking my FR-S.

Yes, I found my 3rd generation miata (NC) to be quite reliable.

humfrz

[alderaan34]

Originally Posted by Razz

More like 32k for comparison purpose as you won't leave the lot without paying that much for a FRS

Wtf did the dealer stick on your car? I paid $29k with rims, spoiler, tint, gap and TTL.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

I have a hard time believing that someone would find FWD handling characteristics more entertaining (IE fun) than RWD handling characteristics. It's like saying that you prefer Miller High Life over Stella Artois. It's possible, but highly unlikely/unusual.:happy0180:

my crx and msp were significantly more fun than my ae86 ever was and maybe even more fun than my miatas were (too much of a time gap to really compare). its a little bit like saying that weight hinders sports cars and then coming to the conclusion that the fiesta is more fun than an f430.

i guess im just saying that execution of the product in practice counts for more than ideals in theory.

Originally Posted by humfrz

Is this "whaap" from miata.net .... ??

Good day to ya .....

I'm sure liking my FR-S.

Yes, I found my 3rd generation miata (NC) to be quite reliable.

humfrz

more than likely. also, welcome.

[whaap]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Is this "whaap" from miata.net .... ??

Good day to ya .....

I'm sure liking my FR-S.

Yes, I found my 3rd generation miata (NC) to be quite reliable.

humfrz

What a great, pleasant surprise! Glad to see you "come over to the other side". Congratulations. I bought mine this past September and I am enjoying it more the longer I have it.

[Ingen]

Originally Posted by Razz

More like 32k for comparison purpose as you won't leave the lot without paying that much for a FRS

Your lot blows. Literally fly somewhere else and buy one and drive it home, far cheaper.

[chickdigger802]

Seeing mentions of Focus st. I tested drived it, was pretty fun even though steering felt weird and... fake?

The thing is, are focus reliable? Never had a good experience or had friends with good experiences with Fords.

[jflogerzi]

Fiesta ST if we were getting the 2 door coupe version(which we are not!) Maybe a 2.0T GC

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by Marchy

wow, could you have picked two worse beers to compare too. well i guess you could have picked bud light vs coors light, but really ... Stella, that's your comparison to RWD sportcar.

with all due offense sir, you need to expand your beer palette. :happy0180:

but on this topic, i had a lot of fun with my old speed 3, it handled extremely well once i beefed up the RSB and I would give my buddy in his rx-8 fits because he just couldn't shake me. However, i will say that personally, i enjoy the brz far more than i did my speed.

I was just trying to compare two similiar style beers. And I admit that I do thoroughly enjoy Stella Artois. I mean it's no Tremens Delerium or Chimay Blue. Still...it's good

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by chickdigger802

Seeing mentions of Focus st. I tested drived it, was pretty fun even though steering felt weird and... fake?

The thing is, are focus reliable? Never had a good experience or had friends with good experiences with Fords.

The combination of electric steering assist, an electronic "LSD" and FWD all conspire to ruin steering feel.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by whaap

What a great, pleasant surprise! Glad to see you "come over to the other side". Congratulations. I bought mine this past September and I am enjoying it more the longer I have it.

Yep, good to be here ....

I've only had this car for about 500 miles and I hope it proves to be as reliable as my 06 MX5 was after 89,000 miles ...

humfrz

[G.I.Choe]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

I have a hard time believing that someone would find FWD handling characteristics more entertaining (IE fun) than RWD handling characteristics. It's like saying that you prefer Miller High Life over Stella Artois. It's possible, but highly unlikely/unusual.:happy0180:

Considering Stella Artois is the French European equivalent of Bud Light, it's not unusual at all.