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Old 05-14-2013, 02:19 PM   #2493
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I'm getting very curious about this kit!

After some more research this really seems like the kit to buy for a track car & dd. I have a few questions:

1) What PSI is your dyno on page 1?

2) Why is the dyno on page 1 ~15 whp lower than, for example, the drift office tuned car at ~5.8 PSI (that resulted in ~245whp)? That car was done on 91 octane as said in that thread, so I'm a little confused. Is 15whp from simply fine tuning, or more PSI, or..?

3) Do you guys offer a "track ready" kit? Will this kit come with adequate cooling to run this car at a track for hard 45 minute sessions?

4) How hard/how much time would it take to "reverse" this turbo kit? (Just the turbo & header, and plugging up any vacuum lines, etc.) Just curious on how hard the overall process for this would be, it doesn't look to hard as everything seems concise and easy to reach correct? The only major item looks to be simply the turbo + header right?

5) Do you offer any e85 tunes and/or dynos? Has this car been tested with e85? I'd probably go Visconti at that point but just curious what you guys offer


Thank you very much! Your definitely the top competitor in my mind at the moment for forced induction, when the funds allow...
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Old 05-14-2013, 07:15 PM   #2494
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I'm getting very curious about this kit!

After some more research this really seems like the kit to buy for a track car & dd. I have a few questions:

1) What PSI is your dyno on page 1?
That is our old 5psi actuator. It was running about 5.5 at peak, and backing off to 4psi at the top end. The chart doesn't reflect the current kit specs (better 6psi actuator, better exhaust manifold), but it's accurate in terms of our kit on the same car, baseline stock vs. baseline turbo kit. I'm seeing about getting that chart updated in the next week or two with current hardware.

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2) Why is the dyno on page 1 ~15 whp lower than, for example, the drift office tuned car at ~5.8 PSI (that resulted in ~245whp)? That car was done on 91 octane as said in that thread, so I'm a little confused. Is 15whp from simply fine tuning, or more PSI, or..?
A bit more power from tuning, and the boost probably went up slightly due to the tuning. Our power chart is based upon an off-the-shelf tune on a stock car (except for the turbo kit itself), that possibly will be running 91 octane. It's not a chart based on max possible if you do X+Y+F+turbokit, it's based on what you get if you bolt it in, change the oil, and flash the base map to the car.

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3) Do you guys offer a "track ready" kit? Will this kit come with adequate cooling to run this car at a track for hard 45 minute sessions?
We do have some hardware specific to the track, though to be honest, it's just a couple of extra's for insurance. The first thing to decide is the power that you will be running at the track, that will determine how much you'll need to work on the cooling. If you are just running base 5~6psi vs. 10~15psi, for instance.

While we have run the kit on the track for extended periods without issues on our car in Japan, I will note that it was near to/at the limits of the standard cooling at that point. But then, from testing data we retrieved from some n/a cars at the same event, even in n/a form it's close to those limits. If you are going to do extended track time, an oil cooler is definitely recommended. A more efficient radiator will help as well.

But the key word there is efficient. A larger radiator may take a bit longer to get too hot - but once it is too hot, it can also stay too hot longer than a smaller radiator.

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4) How hard/how much time would it take to "reverse" this turbo kit? (Just the turbo & header, and plugging up any vacuum lines, etc.) Just curious on how hard the overall process for this would be, it doesn't look to hard as everything seems concise and easy to reach correct? The only major item looks to be simply the turbo + header right?
If you are not touching the front mount intercooler, it's a fairly quick job. You need to unbolt the turbo kit from the car (remove undertray, unbolt exhaust manifold from engine, unbolt turbo discharge from header back exhaust), put the water lines back to stock (ie, don't throw away the stock water line), and remove the oil lines.

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5) Do you offer any e85 tunes and/or dynos? Has this car been tested with e85? I'd probably go Visconti at that point but just curious what you guys offer
We don't, not out of the factory. There's too many different issues to sort with that you cannot do "off the shelf". We prefer to leave that up to the local shop/tuning.
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We actually answered all your questions for once, something that's rarely, if ever, seen online.
Thank you very much for the detailed and helpful response! Nice change of pace from "other" companies.

I'm getting really excited now, lol. Sounds perfect. And I definitely see the track testing you guys have done, I've been casually following your posts for a while and its very impressive to hear how well its doing. I know others have tested the Vortech supercharger kit and have noted a lot of cooling problems from that (stock) so I'm very glad AVO is holding up well.

My power levels I'm looking at are ~300whp with e85. So somewhere under 10psi (with e85) I hope. Of course, that will need fueling upgrades, clutch, and cooling but I'll be doing a oil cooler and upgraded radiator at that point. Would that be sufficient at that power level? Have you tested any cars with your kit at the track with similar boost/power levels?

I wish more people were doing testing with this kit and e85 I don't think I've seen one dyno yet

By a "fairly quick job" can you give me a rough hour quote on that? I know I'm demanding but this is a very important factor for me in my choice of turbo kit . There's plenty of reasons and I need this to be reversible to stock whenever I need to/want to. Under 4 hours would be ideal.

Thank you very much! Great customer support
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My power levels I'm looking at are ~300whp with e85. So somewhere under 10psi (with e85) I hope. Of course, that will need fueling upgrades, clutch, and cooling but I'll be doing a oil cooler and upgraded radiator at that point. Would that be sufficient at that power level? Have you tested any cars with your kit at the track with similar boost/power levels?
Fensport in the UK is doing about 300bhp on 9psi with race gas - e85 will actually be a bit easier to put timing into, so it's definitely doable.

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By a "fairly quick job" can you give me a rough hour quote on that? I know I'm demanding but this is a very important factor for me in my choice of turbo kit . There's plenty of reasons and I need this to be reversible to stock whenever I need to/want to. Under 4 hours would be ideal.
Somebody experienced with the kit can probably do it under 4, it's just a matter of knowing where everything goes. When you are doing it the very first time, it takes longer.
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I love it! It's look so clean!
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Fensport in the UK is doing about 300bhp on 9psi with race gas - e85 will actually be a bit easier to put timing into, so it's definitely doable.
300bhp on 9psi with race gas?

Strange. I thought I've seen close to 300whp with ~10-11psi on pump?
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTNGjQMSHdU"]Subaru BRZ with AVO Kit more pulls. - YouTube[/ame]


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj3guGviIsQ"]Subaru BRZ AVO Kit 1-4 Gear Pull - YouTube[/ame]


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7uqfy6ZAJI"]Subaru BRZ with AVO Kit drive by video - YouTube[/ame]
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its funny you hit 113 in that video, that has been the top speed ive reached on so many occasions I wonder what it is about that number ^_^
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By a "fairly quick job" can you give me a rough hour quote on that? I know I'm demanding but this is a very important factor for me in my choice of turbo kit . There's plenty of reasons and I need this to be reversible to stock whenever I need to/want to. Under 4 hours would be ideal.
Can you list the "plenty of reasons"?
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@Sportsguy83 all runs were filmed in Mexico i assume ?
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Reselling, and California, being 2 reasons
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@Sportsguy83 all runs were filmed in Mexico i assume ?
Cuba acually. Shorter boat ride.
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Edit: Cuba actually sounds better, almost real and its closer as @King Tut points out.

Northwest Cuba it is!
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