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FrsChris · 04-10-2013, 10:44 AM

Hey guys, frankly I am a complete newbie with no knowledge on anything but I wanted to know if anyone else has had the check engine light and traction control light on with the car doing things like shaking while idling and the car jerking in the downshift from second to first and keep in mind this is an automatic transmission and it is not in sport mode or anything like that and along with those problems it has the worst throttle response on earth and I have taken it into the dealer multiple times and they have replaced the camshaft, which did nothing so they then replaced the ecu and it still didnt help and then they had a guy flown in to check it out and he rewrote some of the programming and it is still having the same problems but it is in the shop right now and they are dropping the engine and taking it apart and possible replacing it. I am literally clueless about what is going on and I really hope someone here knows what on earth is going on. So thanks!

Justin.b · 04-10-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FrsChris

Hey guys, frankly I am a complete newbie with no knowledge on anything but I wanted to know if anyone else has had the check engine light and traction control light on with the car doing things like shaking while idling and the car jerking in the downshift from second to first and keep in mind this is an automatic transmission and it is not in sport mode or anything like that and along with those problems it has the worst throttle response on earth and I have taken it into the dealer multiple times and they have replaced the camshaft, which did nothing so they then replaced the ecu and it still didnt help and then they had a guy flown in to check it out and he rewrote some of the programming and it is still having the same problems but it is in the shop right now and they are dropping the engine and taking it apart and possible replacing it. I am literally clueless about what is going on and I really hope someone here knows what on earth is going on. So thanks!

Keep track of your visits and the time you're left without a car because it's at the shop. If they don;t resolve this to your satisfaction you want to have your information ready to make a lemon law claim.

I would expect them to be able to fix it though.

-Justin

bakerr6 · 04-10-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FrsChris

Hey guys, frankly I am a complete newbie with no knowledge on anything but I wanted to know if anyone else has had the check engine light and traction control light on with the car doing things like shaking while idling and the car jerking in the downshift from second to first and keep in mind this is an automatic transmission and it is not in sport mode or anything like that and along with those problems it has the worst throttle response on earth and I have taken it into the dealer multiple times and they have replaced the camshaft, which did nothing so they then replaced the ecu and it still didnt help and then they had a guy flown in to check it out and he rewrote some of the programming and it is still having the same problems but it is in the shop right now and they are dropping the engine and taking it apart and possible replacing it. I am literally clueless about what is going on and I really hope someone here knows what on earth is going on. So thanks!

First off, for gods sake, please use periods to break up the sentance. Secondly, I would search, as others have had similar problems. Third, I hope they can fix this for you. I would see if you can pull the codes and post them on here to see if anyone else has had similar ones

FrsChris · 04-10-2013, 11:11 AM

Sorry about the missing periods, and the first time it was in they said it was supposedly an exhaust code. I didn't receive a specific code but it has been in the shop about 7 times and the problems have not been fixed. The terrible thing is that I have driver education with the SCCA and my first autocross meet this weekend so I may end up racing in a stock 2014 Camry rental.

FrsChris · 04-10-2013, 11:18 AM

I would also like to say thank you for the guidance about all of this because this is a pretty weird situation. I am hoping these problems will be resolved soon and so, I wanted to know if you guys were aware of a good cost effective way of adding some more power to the car. I recently purchased some Dunlop Derezza zII tires and for the short amount of time I have been able to use them I feel that the difference is like night and day. Thanks again!

Eurasianman · 04-10-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pcasso87

Techs have no indication as to what caused the fault but the ecu is being replaced as a precaution since there was a couple of cars reported to have a faulty ecu that led to problems and codes. Warranty is covering the problem.

Few quick questions. You do not have to answer them though if you do not wish. Just curious.

1) You said warranty is covering the problem. The problem as in the ECU, the ECU and engine, or just the engine? I am guessing both.

2) Did Toyota/Scion give you a hard time since your car was modded? I know, from what I read in the past, that if the techs can not prove that your mods caused the issue, then your warranty is not voided in any way. I know you had a few mods, but my guess is, none of your mods really contributed to the issue in the first place.

3) You might have already answered this and I missed it, but, is Toyota/Scion going to disassemble your block and let you know exactly what broke? (My guess is probably not, but I figured I would ask anyway).

Lastly, thanks for the updates. Glad to see you will be getting your car back by the end of the week

bakerr6 · 04-10-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FrsChris

I would also like to say thank you for the guidance about all of this because this is a pretty weird situation. I am hoping these problems will be resolved soon and so, I wanted to know if you guys were aware of a good cost effective way of adding some more power to the car. I recently purchased some Dunlop Derezza zII tires and for the short amount of time I have been able to use them I feel that the difference is like night and day. Thanks again!

yea np man, I would say your best bang for the buck would be a tune. then I would see what improvements you can make to the suspension, based off of your driving style (you've already upgraded one of the most important parts).

In regards to the car being in the shop 7 times, I would look into your lemon laws. Once you figure out what your rights are, I would ask the dealer to replace the car or at least reimburse you for the time you've spent going back and forth. That may get them thinking a little about what needs to be done.

Uki · 04-10-2013, 01:18 PM

Glad to hear they stood behind there product

FrsChris · 04-10-2013, 01:46 PM

I will definitely check into the lemon laws, I got it used and it is still under warranty so I think I could make it work. I also was wondering how uncommon the FRS is in whiteout compared to the other colors it comes in.

kioton32 · 04-10-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FrsChris

I also was wondering how uncommon the FRS is in whiteout compared to the other colors it comes in.

That is one of the most popular colors... If not the most popular... The rarest would be hot lava and firestorm.

FrsChris · 04-10-2013, 02:30 PM

Is raven also a very common color? I have black OZ superleggera wheels and have the whiteout FRS but I may be getting a replacement FRS because my current one is a complete lemon.

husker741 · 04-10-2013, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FrsChris

Is raven also a very common color? I have black OZ superleggera wheels and have the whiteout FRS but I may be getting a replacement FRS because my current one is a complete lemon.

Where did you get your car?

track_warrior · 05-09-2013, 12:27 AM

And shes back!! New engine replaced under warranty dealer blamed the car going lean and causing piston failure, all injectors were replaced as a precaution since the o rings could be faulty. It seems a few cars have had injector failure. Now comes the hard part, breaking her in with harnesses, racing buckets, and noisy brakes on the street

ft_sjo · 05-09-2013, 01:37 AM

Glad you got it fixed.

You must have a friend at that dealership!

05-09-2013, 12:27 AM	#223
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04-10-2013, 10:44 AM	#211
FrsChris Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Whiteout Scion Frs Location: Omaha Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hey guys, frankly I am a complete newbie with no knowledge on anything but I wanted to know if anyone else has had the check engine light and traction control light on with the car doing things like shaking while idling and the car jerking in the downshift from second to first and keep in mind this is an automatic transmission and it is not in sport mode or anything like that and along with those problems it has the worst throttle response on earth and I have taken it into the dealer multiple times and they have replaced the camshaft, which did nothing so they then replaced the ecu and it still didnt help and then they had a guy flown in to check it out and he rewrote some of the programming and it is still having the same problems but it is in the shop right now and they are dropping the engine and taking it apart and possible replacing it. I am literally clueless about what is going on and I really hope someone here knows what on earth is going on. So thanks!

04-10-2013, 11:11 AM	#214
FrsChris Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Whiteout Scion Frs Location: Omaha Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sorry about the missing periods, and the first time it was in they said it was supposedly an exhaust code. I didn't receive a specific code but it has been in the shop about 7 times and the problems have not been fixed. The terrible thing is that I have driver education with the SCCA and my first autocross meet this weekend so I may end up racing in a stock 2014 Camry rental.

04-10-2013, 11:18 AM	#215
FrsChris Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Whiteout Scion Frs Location: Omaha Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would also like to say thank you for the guidance about all of this because this is a pretty weird situation. I am hoping these problems will be resolved soon and so, I wanted to know if you guys were aware of a good cost effective way of adding some more power to the car. I recently purchased some Dunlop Derezza zII tires and for the short amount of time I have been able to use them I feel that the difference is like night and day. Thanks again!

04-10-2013, 01:18 PM	#218
Uki Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S & 98 LR Discovery Location: Manchester, NH Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Glad to hear they stood behind there product

04-10-2013, 01:46 PM	#219
FrsChris Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Whiteout Scion Frs Location: Omaha Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I will definitely check into the lemon laws, I got it used and it is still under warranty so I think I could make it work. I also was wondering how uncommon the FRS is in whiteout compared to the other colors it comes in.

04-10-2013, 02:30 PM	#221
FrsChris Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: Whiteout Scion Frs Location: Omaha Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Is raven also a very common color? I have black OZ superleggera wheels and have the whiteout FRS but I may be getting a replacement FRS because my current one is a complete lemon.

05-09-2013, 01:37 AM	#224
ft_sjo Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: GT86 Location: The Motherland Posts: 1,398 Thanks: 140 Thanked 473 Times in 271 Posts Mentioned: 22 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Glad you got it fixed. You must have a friend at that dealership!

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