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Old 04-30-2013, 11:27 AM   #43
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I was more thinking speed adjustments on the freeway, down to 70 then back up, where weight was concerned.

Sportier tyres should give more noise (definitely more cabin noise) but shouldn't have a -huge- impact on MPG. Perhaps 2 or 3 max-- The car has an excellent aerodynamic profile and aerodynamic drag forms a much larger portion of drag than rolling resistance.
I went to max performance summers (Conti ExtremeContact DW) and my mileage didn't change at all. 25mpg now, 25mpg then.
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:49 AM   #44
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Frs is most balanced. People complain about lack of power...how will u get to truly push a cars limits if you rely on power to win the race?

I haven't had too many issues with 370z mechanical wise.

I enjoy driving and racing my 2000 mustang. It still feels more nimble and less claustrophobic than the 370 and the newer mustangs.

That being said, I'm buying an frs soon. Driven a lot of them and my buddy's all have one... And the frs is much more of a technical car. The mustang was great for being a mustang : wild horse. I think I would enjoy some fine precision driving now.
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:52 AM   #45
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FRS compared to 370z

Power
Handling
Suspension feel
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Weight
Top speed
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:38 AM   #46
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at 100 mph its a lot more about power to drag rather than power to weight. i think if anything its the small size/low cod and the low resistance tires. if you put sporty tires on the frs, the mpg is going to drop.
It's a myth that max/extreme performance tires hurt mileage. In fact, the new Dunlop ZII Extreme Perf tires qualify as "Low Rolling Resistance" in one size.

What's good for rolling resistance can also be good for performance. Mainly light weight and large tread blocks with fewer grooves with no siping.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:48 AM   #47
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FRS compared to 370z

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Don't forget back seats and gas mileage. Some of us live in the real world and drive these every day.
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Old 05-05-2013, 02:08 AM   #48
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Don't forget back seats and gas mileage. Some of us live in the real world and drive these every day.
Some of us actually owned a 370 before falling in the love with the FRS/BRZ
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Some of us actually owned a 370 before falling in the love with the FRS/BRZ
Two close friends own Zs, a 300ZX and 350Z. I hear a lot of complaints of both lack of practicality and poor gas mileage. YMMV.
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Two close friends own Zs, a 300ZX and 350Z. I hear a lot of complaints of both lack of practicality and poor gas mileage. YMMV.
What they say is totally true. I bought the 370 because i was quite insecure after my divorce, and the car was kinda like a "rebound". The ex-wife took the family car. And i shared custody over my 2 yr old daughter. But then i found another partner and it was impossible for us all to go out. So she bought an orange Toyota 86. And then i fell in love with that, and sold my 370 and bought a white 86.

Gas mileage wise, if on highway it was okay. 23mpg. In traffic, around 16mpg. If in heavy traffic (which is very often here in Sydney Australia), the gas mileage was atrocious, borderline v8, 14mpg.

That's why the FRS/BRZ is so much better than the 370z as a daily driver.
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OP- Everyone has a different definition of what a daily driven car needs. This is just one man's opinion:

I own a 370z as a weekend/fun car. I daily drive a mazda3.

The 370z should really never be considered for daily driver duty (imo). It only has 2 seats obviously. I only get 19-22 mpg depending on how heavy my right foot is feeling that day. I ended up purchasing the Z after test driving an FR-S, 5.0 Mustang, STI, Cayman and MX-5 because it was the most fun to me personally. Practicality was literally at the very bottom of my list.

I think the F-RS would be a nearly perfect blend of fun and practicality. If I could only have one car, I would have chosen the FR-S over all the cars I tested. I just wish there was some magic potion that could turn my daily mazda3 into an FR-S
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Old 05-11-2013, 04:22 AM   #52
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I just wish there was some magic potion that could turn my daily mazda3 into an FR-S
There is...its called a credit card
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Old 05-13-2013, 10:41 AM   #53
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That was definitely a thought I had!
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Old 05-13-2013, 10:52 AM   #54
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owned all 3...and i loved the z, but 2 seats were inconvenient, loved the power of the boss but mileage sucks, love the mileage of the brz but backseats are useless (atleast i could put the dog back there) and power sucks, but its fun. all in all i would go back to the z in the next year lol...
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Old 05-15-2013, 08:03 PM   #55
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I own a 370z as a weekend/fun car. I daily drive a mazda3.
What year Mazda3? I drive 2012 here. Do you happen to go to M3R?

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I just wish there was some magic potion that could turn my daily mazda3 into an FR-S :mad0259
I couldn't agree more. I wish I had waited until it came out. Right now the price gap between my depreciated Mazda3 and a new FR-S is too much...
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