What do you drive - MT or AT?

[Ricepuddin]

Originally Posted by chenshuo

3) maintenance cost. it's cheaper to maintain AT.

How do you figure? Last time I checked cost of an auto rebuild > cost of a manual rebuild.

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

6MT here, with a "Save the Manuals" sticker on the rear windshield.

I have the same sticker on my rear window

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[RJ_203]

MT...test drove the AT before my whiteout came in and it was fun..but......MT is BETTTTTTTTTTTTTERRRRRRRRRRRRRR FUNNER LOL

[CircuitJerk]

I'm gonna have to get a sticker made that says "fk yo manual" lol

[polarstorm]

Originally Posted by KRAZYK

FRS MT - becasue true manual gives more control and over all more fun out of a car like this.

Makes you feel closer to the car.. and what car enthusiast doesn't want that?!

It's the real deal. All those issues of 6 cylinder cars on auto at a stoplight go away when you've got a manual tranny and you know how to use that baby.

[torqdork]

I'm still waiting for my 6M/T to arrive, but have to say the 6A/T I test drove was incredible for a torque converter A/T with Sport Mode up/down shifts complete with throttle blip as quick or quicker than most any M/T pilot could muster.

But (you knew this was coming), the poll is overwhelmingly in favor 2-1 of the 6M/T. I don't think you'd see similar numbers anywhere other than here or exotic car forums.

Me? I still haven't driven an M/T. I ordered based on a lifelong preference for the satisfaction of a properly timed and executed heel-toe rev matched downshift that I figure will be often given the torque curve of the FA-20. And my plan to autocross and track the car where it's all about control and eliminating variables like unexpected gearshifts selected by a computer.

Tough call since the A/T is so impressive, but hopefully the M/T will return as many grins as the test drive car.

Waiting impatiently...

[Sonolin]

Originally Posted by torqdork

I'm still waiting for my 6M/T to arrive, but have to say the 6A/T I test drove was incredible for a torque converter A/T with Sport Mode up/down shifts complete with throttle blip as quick or quicker than most any M/T pilot could muster.

But (you knew this was coming), the poll is overwhelmingly in favor 2-1 of the 6M/T. I don't think you'd see similar numbers anywhere other than here or exotic car forums.

Me? I still haven't driven an M/T. I ordered based on a lifelong preference for the satisfaction of a properly timed and executed heel-toe rev matched downshift that I figure will be often given the torque curve of the FA-20. And my plan to autocross and track the car where it's all about control and eliminating variables like unexpected gearshifts selected by a computer.

Tough call since the A/T is so impressive, but hopefully the M/T will return as many grins as the test drive car.

Waiting impatiently...

Having owned an at and now owning a mt I agree on everything you said about the auto. The manual is just that much better. Good decision :-

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by torqdork

eliminating variables like unexpected gearshifts selected by a computer.

Is this statement even correct?

[CircuitJerk]

Originally Posted by s2d4

Is this statement even correct?

If you leave it auto mode.

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by CircuitJerk

If you leave it auto mode.

He was referring to autox in auto mode?

[dagame]

i drive an auto since in our country its basically traffic everywhere you go in the city, and i drive my car car everyday. i would've preferred a manual though if the traffic here wasn't that bad.

[shawnperolis]

Heresy to get a true driver's car with an autotragic transmission. Manual all the way for me!

[torqdork]

Originally Posted by s2d4

He was referring to autox in auto mode?

All of the cars I've autocrossed were M/T's. It was a generic statement about A/T's in general. Even if the twins A/T's hold a gear at WOT from bogging to redline in a certain mode (and the test drive A/T car was accidentally bouncing off the rev limiter a few times and held), I didn't know if it would hold repeatedly.

Sounds like it might, that's great, but I still prefer the M/T for control and 48 lb. lighter curb weight.

[dirtbike250x]

First MT for me, came from riding motorcycles my whole life, so it wasn't to much of a transition. Just working on transferring the muscle memory from the hand to the foot, but enjoying every moment of it. Other vehicle is an AT so if I feel lazy its always available.

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by Grateful Dave

I have driven MT's for over 30 years. I also have driven AT's. I still own my MT 2000 Tacoma 4x4 that I have been driving on Jeep trails and mountain forest dirt roads for 12 years and I wouldn't have it any other way but for everyday driving I like my AT in my FRS. Before my 2000 Tacoma 4x4, I had a 1988 Toyota 2x4 MT truck that I drove all around from CA. to AZ, CO, Wyoming, Utah, New York and Vermont. Then it became a work truck, I was working in Motion Picture Special Effects in Burbank, Ca. For eight years, I was hauling wood, steel, cement, lights, cables, and camera packages in traffic all over LA. I also had a 1981 Toyota 2x4 MT truck. I put over 200,000 miles on each driving city/freeway and dirt roads. I've also driven other MT cars & trucks in the past. I know about manual/clutch driving.

I know you MT snobs are AT haters and you look down at the AT's. I test drove a MT FRS and it is nice! If my FRS was going to be a track car or weekend only, of course I would buy a MT. Since my FRS is replacing my DD and I have had a previous broken left leg that affects my shifting when tired after long days on my feet at work, I chose the AT. Earlier in my life, I thought I would never drive an AT sports car and I debated buying the AT vs MT for my FRS. I thought long and hard about it. The DD that I'm replacing was my mom's 89 Corolla AT that I inherited. I have been driving it for the last 8 years. That's when I realized I'm OVER driving a MT in traffic. I want to keep my FRS for a long time, and I didn't want to come to point where I have to sell my FRS because I'm completely Burnt Out on manual/clutch shifting, physically and mentally. So I chose the AT.

With my FRS AT, I drive in either in D or D sport in the city or freeway or when I'm tired. When I'm driving twisty mountain roads trying to have some fun, I'm in manual mode either shifting by paddles or stick for that rev control. Yes, there is still a compromise in manual mode vs a true MT with a clutch but you adapt and you are having just as much fun with the AT in manual mode. Even the AT in Sport mode can be fun on mountain roads. It shifts on it's own nicely, match rev down shifting when braking automatically.

Don't be hating until you try it. It is not as bad as you think. I'm just utilizing the technology for my needs.


The AT is Awesome for an AT! The AT FRS gives you the best of ALL WORLDS, a real sports car that can be a DD with good mpg

This is pretty much the only good reason for buying an automatic.