For those who have doubt in the Vortech kit please read.

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by Darren Orange

Is there anything stopping you from running E85 on a stock 86?

you need an ECU Tune. Other then this, the stock fuel system and engine handle E85 just fine.

[Sonolin]

Originally Posted by Darren Orange

Really? I've heard you can normally rate E85 as about 95-96 octane? Is it higher than that? I might be getting bad info.

I also racing fuel 110 octane around me but i'll pretend it does not exist because its like $9 a gallon!

e85 is rated at ~105 octane I believe (I could be wrong). The main advantage of e85 over gasoline is that it gives better cooling properties over gasoline, allowing more timing & boost safer.

[civicdrivr]

Originally Posted by 2forme

93 doesn't anywhere near the potential of e85 for any forced induction system. You're talking about a 100whp difference.

John says to expect 30-40whp more with this kit over 93. I'd be curious to see what this car puts down on pump gas though for comparisons sake.

Originally Posted by Darren Orange

Really? I've heard you can normally rate E85 as about 95-96 octane? Is it higher than that? I might be getting bad info.

Originally Posted by Sonolin

e85 is rated at ~105 octane I believe.

This is my understanding of e85 as well.

Also, since e85 doesn't have as much energy as 93 octane, the price difference becomes a moot point when considering mpgs.

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[2forme]

Originally Posted by civicdrivr

John says to expect 30-40whp more with this kit over 93. I'd be curious to see what this car puts down on pump gas though for comparisons sake.

Yea, I just have a hard time swallowing 325whp on 12 psi of 93 when the 10 psi kits put down 240-255. It wouldn't make sense ya know?

[civicdrivr]

Originally Posted by 2forme

Yea, I just have a hard time swallowing 325whp on 12 psi of 93 when the 10 psi kits put down 240-255. It wouldn't make sense ya know?

I absolutely agree, that's why I'd like to see what this car puts down on pump.

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[Darren Orange]

So a NA car could be tuned to E85. So wouldn't that car as result be able to put down more power just because of that?

[2forme]

Originally Posted by Darren Orange

So a NA car could be tuned to E85. So wouldn't that car as result be able to put down more power just because of that?

Yes. I put down 203whp on NA with I/E/Tune on E85 and 186-188 on 93 with the same setup.

[Darren Orange]

Originally Posted by 2forme

Yes. I put down 203whp on NA with I/E/Tune on E85 and 186-188 on 93 with the same setup.

Did you have anything else done exhaust etc or just bone stock less the E85 change?

[2forme]

Originally Posted by Darren Orange

Did you have anything else done exhaust etc or just bone stock less the E85 change?

Just SRT exhaust, AFE intake, bone stock otherwise.

[Darren Orange]

Originally Posted by 2forme

Just SRT exhaust, AFE intake, bone stock otherwise.

And we are not seeing any major hit(not that I care) in mpg? I hear that these cars tuned to E85 maintain pretty much the same mileage. Is that true?

[2forme]

Originally Posted by Darren Orange

And we are not seeing any major hit(not that I care) in mpg? I hear that these cars tuned to E85 maintain pretty much the same mileage. Is that true?

No, I went from 29-30 down to 22-23.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Darren Orange

I hear that these cars tuned to E85 maintain pretty much the same mileage.

Where did you "hear" that?

[Darren Orange]

I'm going to disregard the "technically should" of the "science" document I read with regards to E85.

[Sonolin]

Originally Posted by 2forme

No, I went from 29-30 down to 22-23.

Ouch...

My mileage on crap cali 91 is 22-24 mpg avg. I'm going to be in v8 territory with e85