2013 Honda Civic Si Sedan vs 2013 Subaru BRZ

[Gixxersixxerman]

Originally Posted by scottynoshotty

every problem that has ever occured or will occur in this world has been caused by a civic owner, with their 319 inch diameter exhausts and 19 foot tall spoilers, sadaam, hitler, ghengis khan...all civic drivers

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Gixxersixxerman]

Originally Posted by Neo Zuko

But man I miss that hatch utility. You could move your whole life sans furniture in that thing. I really wanted to like the Focus ST, but I didn't.

I was going to ask why not look at the ST.. What about it did you not like.. I haven't seen one in the flesh, but if I was having to buy a sub 30k car that's fun and family sensible that's what would be on the top of the list.. I really would love a maxima but just not ready for a 4 door after having to have them the last 15 years

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by fatoni

i like to think of the frs a a sports car but you hit the nail on the head with everything else. the frs does seem to have the highest ego boost/dollar of any car in the history of cars.

it also pretty much has better of everything than the frs

The RX8 has evrything going for it over the FRS....LMAO. Let's see: Huge aftermarket with unlimited potential...nope. Reliability....nope. Looks....nope....Power....yes.

So the answer to your statement is pretty much nope.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by Celica00

^^ why is this guy here? for the last year all he does is snarky remarks about how lame he thinks the frs is. isn't there a mazda forum you can spend your day on?

Seriously, his hate has run its course. To say the RX8 has almost everything going for it over the FRS is laughable...they are similar cars...but the RX8 died a slow miserable death for a reason

[Neo Zuko]

Originally Posted by wootwoot

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Also, awesome shorts!

Ha, just old crappy swim trunks I bought at 6-flags!! They are ugly huh.

[LeeMaster]

I owned a 2006 Acura TSX which has the same engine as the 2013 Civic SI, and I must say it is one of the easiest engine to get power out of. Compared to the BRZ/FRS engine the K24 can easily get +50 whp from I/H/E with an E85 tune. Not to mention the fun handling characteristics due to front/rear double wishbone suspensions.

If Subaru/Toyota never made the BRZ/FRS, I would've kept that car. I admit, I do miss it sometimes....

Originally Posted by Neo Zuko

And now I can drive three girls instead of one!!

Damn your girls are tall, I can fit my wife and two of her girlfriends on the backseats just fine.

[Neo Zuko]

Originally Posted by Gixxersixxerman

I was going to ask why not look at the ST.. What about it did you not like.. I haven't seen one in the flesh, but if I was having to buy a sub 30k car that's fun and family sensible that's what would be on the top of the list.. I really would love a maxima but just not ready for a 4 door after having to have them the last 15 years

Based on my back to back drives the Si I bought had the better driving feel, the ST was more numb, less exciting steering, the shifter was less exciting and loose, the car wheel hops like crazy in the rain due to turbo torque and no mechanical limited slip diff, an awkward seating position, it was more money, no colors in stock that I liked, ugly in person (interior and exterior), and possibly less resale value. However the interior was built nice, the engine note was awesome, decent handling, and the HP/torque was very potent. I be far more interested in that Shelby Focus ST coming out next year... no major drive train differences, but comes with a Borla Exhaust and other tweaks for only $15K more!! Ya Buddy!!

[DarkSunrise]

Congrats! Glad you found a car that fits you.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

Seriously, his hate has run its course. To say the RX8 has almost everything going for it over the FRS is laughable...they are similar cars...but the RX8 died a slow miserable death for a reason

If it had reliability and reasonable MPG, I'd probably own one.

You can't deny that this is a good looking car.

[trd_kid]

the new ST is a nice car but the packages the offer make the price go up real quick.

But as much as I disapprove , congrats on the new car. In the end my opinion that the 8th gen is better(sedan, I never liked the coupe) is just that MY OPINION, and being a honda it will probably last forever and a half just like a toyota or a subaru will.

[rice_classic]

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

The RX8 has evrything going for it over the FRS....LMAO. Let's see: Huge aftermarket with unlimited potential...nope. Reliability....nope. Looks....nope....Power....yes.

So the answer to your statement is pretty much nope.

The RX8 only has "everything going for it" if it has an LS1 swap.

[Celica00]

Originally Posted by rice_classic

The RX8 only has "everything going for it" if it has an LS1 swap.

not price..

[JDMenrique]

Originally Posted by dospod

8th gen civic > 9th gen civic still
the new civic feels very cheap in my eyes compared to the 8th gen

i agree, i was a former 8th gen owner.

[JDMenrique]

Originally Posted by Gixxersixxerman

Every forum you go to the members are going to defend their product they purchased.. I don't think it's so much hating or bashing, even though I guess some if it is.. But you have to expect a civic bashing on our forum to some degree..

I agree. I was over at 8thcivic about 2 months ago and the vibe over there was that the Si was exponentially better than the FR-S.

Bias is always expected on forums, but it gives you insight on who actually has a clue vs who is blowing hot air.