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Old 04-18-2013, 12:32 PM   #15
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Yes but I do all my own tuning and internal mods as well... It's not going to have a stock block...with everything I have down so far I should be close to the number on pump gas 93 octane... I just need the twin screw setup from innovate so I van go with a bigger blower, intercooler and fuel system... 340-350 wont be out of the realm... Plus to top it off ill be running slicks at the track...
If you have all that and plan on running it at the strip (which I wanna do to mine ) I assume ur better off with a turbo considering that you are going to build your internals , moaar boost and an anti lag setup or a launch control tune ul be way better then a sc

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I don't want the possible boost spike of a turbo though... It's not going to be a straight track car... I will still be driving it on the street and like the reliable boost of an SC over turbo... Plus I won't have to deal with the torque dip that this engine has... But I appreciate the input...
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Yes but I do all my own tuning and internal mods as well... It's not going to have a stock block...with everything I have down so far I should be close to the number on pump gas 93 octane... I just need the twin screw setup from innovate so I van go with a bigger blower, intercooler and fuel system... 340-350 wont be out of the realm... Plus to top it off ill be running slicks at the track...
That sounds like a killer build. Twin screw on this car is going to fly at the strip, I'm sure you'll get into the 11's with that.
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That sounds like a killer build. Twin screw on this car is going to fly at the strip, I'm sure you'll get into the 11's with that.
11's have been done on a stock block already if I'm correct
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I don't want the possible boost spike of a turbo though... It's not going to be a straight track car... I will still be driving it on the street and like the reliable boost of an SC over turbo... Plus I won't have to deal with the torque dip that this engine has... But I appreciate the input...
Actually, proper tunning alone should get rid of the torque dip. That plus anti-lag launch control should be ideal for your set up + if you are only looking for a 12-13 sec car and have built internals it sould be safe for DD.
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:13 PM   #20
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I don't want the possible boost spike of a turbo though...
With Overboost protection you don't need to worry about a boost spike.
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it doesnt quite matter the methods, just the HP and TQ curves.

500whp will get you in the 12s or less but at this point the the problem will be putting all the power down to the wheels
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What kills me about that HKS Supercharger making 300HP is how little torque they make. I'm running 7lbs of boost on my turbo setup which is good for 260WHP with 211 Wtq, while the 300WHP HKS setup is making only 222Wtq...

Superchargers are cute...

Also boost spikes come from equipment issues/failures, also if you get a good tune with EcuTek or run an AEM failsafe you can protect your car from such issues.
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it doesnt quite matter the methods, just the HP and TQ curves.

500whp will get you in the 12s or less but at this point the the problem will be putting all the power down to the wheels
It's a RWD car its not rocket science We have a parking lot of street class FWD cars that run mid 8's-9's and daily driven ones that run low 10's.
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I feel more comfortable with the twin screw SC though... Just my preference... To each there own right...
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I just need the twin screw setup from innovate so I van go with a bigger blower, intercooler and fuel system... 340-350 wont be out of the realm.
You might want to do some research about it. You can't just wack a bigger blower like the 335 onto a 210 based setup... 210 has a max of 300hp which won't happen either.
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You might want to do some research about it. You can't just wack a bigger blower like the 335 onto a 210 based setup... 210 has a max of 300hp which won't happen either.

I will be fine taking a base system and modifying it to be what I want... Putting a larger blower means ill have to modify the bracket and base and I'm fine doing that... I know what om doing and am not going to ruin anything... I'll be doing a full build thread to show progress and it will be fine.
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That time and trap seems about right. My previous car (neon srt 4) made similar power (230 whp) and had similar curb weight (2890) and ran almost identical time and trap speed.

How much does the supercharger weight? I bet an frs with supercharger is right around the same weight.

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SRT4's with stickier tires would easily hit a 13.8 otherwise stock, and since RWD hooks up way better I wouldn't doubt an FR-S could easily hit a couple tenths faster still.

An e46 M3 will run a low 13 with the stock 330hp at the crank and about 600lbs more weight (they're ~3400lbs), so I see no reason why an FR-S making an honest 250whp couldn't run low 13's either.
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