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Old 03-19-2013, 09:14 AM   #43
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I like the design of the intercooler and it having the inlet/outlet up top. It gives more room for an oil cooler and better airflow to the radiator.

Does anyone know the spec on the turbo?
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Old 03-19-2013, 09:54 AM   #44
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Does anyone know the spec on the turbo?
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Greddy 11500314 Turbocharger T518Z
GReddy exclusively uses GReddy Spec. Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Japan Turbochargers, many of which are unique to us, including the popular 18G’s, compact TZ line and large hybrid T-power Turbos. It is well known, Mitsubishi turbochargers are among the highest quality turbos in the industry today. They utilize a durable center cartage, an extra large free-floating bushing with a large diameter center shaft. We believe this design to be superior to all other standard bushing turbos as well as many ball bearing types.
T518Z = TD05H-18G
CWL = inducer 50.5mm, exducer 68mm.
TWL = exducer 49.1mm, inducer 56mm.
COMP HSG =
EXH HSG = 8cm2 or 10cm2

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Looking for map
Edit :found best available
Read First This is the most accurate map I'm aware of
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Description: This flow map is my speculation based on horizontally squeezing and vertically stretching a MHI 20G map.
The 16G-large, 18G, and 20G compressor wheels all share the same 2.680" exducer diameter and differ in trim (and perhaps blade design): 50 trim for the 16G-large, 55 trim for the 18G and 60 trim for the 20G. In wheel "families" like this (same exducer size) higher trim usually means more flow and often lower maximum pressure ratio. Sometimes the higher trim wheel may have a bit less maximum efficiency than the lower trim wheel, such as seen in the Garrett T3 series (compare 50-trim and 60-trim wheels). So to make this map I reduced the 20G flow some and increased the maximum PR some. All "G" maps are somewhat similar in appearance so I think this speculative map may be a reasonable guess as to the MHI 18G performance. Coverage of demand lines is not as good as the 14B and 16G-large, but better than with the 20G. However, efficiency is probably better than either of the other 3 wheels. Note: This is the stock turbo for the GReddy turbo kit.
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Old 03-19-2013, 11:04 AM   #45
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At the $25,255 sticker price that Scion offers the FR-S it is actually cheaper to buy one of these outright and ship it back to Japan than it is to go down to a local Toyota dealer and order an 86, if they even have one in stock.
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Old 03-19-2013, 11:16 AM   #46
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Hey, maybe you are a guru, maybe you aren't. But implying that you know more than a massive well respected tuner like greddy/trust is a hell of a call to backup.
I'm implying that i have seen plenty of those type of flex bellows fail. I've been doing this over 10 years and personally built over a thousand manifolds. Not saying i know more than whoever, but i am confident in my work and thats all that matters to me.
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:56 PM   #47
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I'm implying that i have seen plenty of those type of flex bellows fail. I've been doing this over 10 years and personally built over a thousand manifolds. Not saying i know more than whoever, but i am confident in my work and thats all that matters to me.
All good man. I'm not blinded by the brand either, you might be right about this.

I'll retract my indirect comment about your kit being a copy of this kit as well; based on your word that it's not. Just because two kits look similar doesn't mean one is a copy of another - althougth usually it does. Sometimes two different sets of experienced eyes come up with the same solution to the same problem.
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Old 03-19-2013, 05:00 PM   #48
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If this kit ends up being carb exempt I may have to pick it up. I know greddy has released carb exempt kits in the past so itd be nice to see another one.

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Old 03-19-2013, 05:14 PM   #49
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Thought this was interesting:
You guys in the states are lucky in this respect. Because you're such a massive market, car manufacturers put MUCH less margin on your cars sold there. I lived in Australia up until a few months ago, and there dollar is the same value as yours. Yet a car that was made in Australia, (HSV, Pontaic GTO in US) was $10k MORE to buy in Australia, than it was to buy it from the US, and ship it back.

Another example is new luxury cars. Again in Australia, a new Lexus ISF was $135k, a new E92 M3 is $190k.

But, that said; our wages / living conditions / economy I believe are better in Australia/New Zealand.

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I'm not saying it's not worth it. I would definitely buy GReddy products over most others. I was just stating that I'll bet it will be $5,000+ because there are various people saying it should only be $3,000-$4,000 for the full kit.
Its 514,000 yen, which according to google is $ 5404 USD.
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Old 03-19-2013, 05:21 PM   #50
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But, that said; our wages / living conditions / economy I believe are better in Australia/New Zealand.
Weather, beaches, people, all better lol.
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Old 03-19-2013, 05:30 PM   #51
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We sell quite a few turbo kits for other makes/models to Australia...would love to move there!
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I wonder why they went with the t518z 10cm instead of the t518z 8cm. All the SR20 guys who have tried both believe the 8cm is the better street setup for their motors. And considering that many will run this kit at low boost levels, I wonder if Greddy would offer it as an option if you asked for an 8cm instead.

A t517z might be a great option for a more responsive 200rwkw setup as well.
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After spending the afternoon comparing turbos around the 200kw range, I'm convinced the t517z 8cm is an excellent choice for a "Stage 1" (stock fuel system) setup. The t518z 10cm included in this kit, has been chosen so that there is much more headroom in the setup for when the purchaser decides to upgrade fueling.

I've asked Greddy/Trust Japan direct if they have tested a t518z 8cm or t517z 8cm on this setup already, and whether they would consider supplying the kit with one of these turbos as an alternative for those seeking realibility and response more than top end.
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:29 AM   #54
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Has anyone heard a recent update on the expected availability date ? And 280hp is nice. I really want to be around 300 tho. I personally am looking for a fast daily with the style of this car. Whatever numbers Greddy ends up with will be good for me but with TSM (top speed motorsports) tuning, I wonder what kinda numbers we could see?
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From past experience with there kits, does anyone know if it was possible to just upgrade to a bigger greddy turbo
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:28 PM   #56
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You know you can call Greddy and ask about their kit. I called them the other day. The said they're still testing the kit on Ken Gushi' scion frs. They're hoping to release the between June and August, so that means they don't have a set date yet.
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