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Itssrayyxd · 04-02-2013, 10:15 AM

Well I want to lower it about 1.6" max cause my area has bad roads. So I don't want to lose any control quality on the car either. I'm not going to track my car at all. And my budget is ~1k or so.

norsamerican · 04-02-2013, 10:26 AM

Ksports coilovers fetch for right around 1000 bucks

Itssrayyxd · 04-02-2013, 10:39 AM

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Ksports coilovers fetch for right around 1000 bucks

Ill definitely do some research on them as well

CSG David · 04-02-2013, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Itssrayyxd

Well I want to lower it about 1.6" max cause my area has bad roads. So I don't want to lose any control quality on the car either. I'm not going to track my car at all. And my budget is ~1k or so.

A shock/spring combo would be a better choice for you. My suggestion is Tein Street Basis (sub 1k) or Koni shocks and lowering springs. Both in which CSG carries.

Itssrayyxd · 04-02-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG David

A shock/spring combo would be a better choice for you. My suggestion is Tein Street Basis (sub 1k) or Koni shocks and lowering springs. Both in which CSG carries.

How long would springs last for? I don't want to get springs just to get coils in the future if the springs fail

coastertrav · 04-02-2013, 12:50 PM

Springs don't fail.

AllDayJonRay · 04-02-2013, 12:56 PM

Springs DO fail, but what people are referring to failing is the shock absorber. The stock shock absorbers have a tendency to fail when the vehicle is lowered. The vehicle is more likely make the shock absorbers 'bottom out' (and work in a piston travel distance they were not designed for).

From what another member has seen (he is a Toyota Service Advisor), people have had decent luck with the stock absorbers when lowering 1", but he has seen multiple failures already when lowering the car more than that...

So if you do lower your car (with just springs), and your stock shock absorbers DO fail, you will likely replace them with aftermarket units, and use the same springs.

Itssrayyxd · 04-02-2013, 01:13 PM

If I went with the springs set up, what would the total cost be around if I get eibach sportlines with aftermarket shocks?

OrbitalEllipses · 04-02-2013, 01:28 PM

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If I went with the springs set up, what would the total cost be around if I get eibach sportlines with aftermarket shocks?

Do some research?

Your springs are probably $200...but there's only one aftermarket shock right now and that's the Koni. Those are $770 right now, but were on sale for 20% off last month.

Itssrayyxd · 04-02-2013, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Do some research?

Your springs are probably $200...but there's only one aftermarket shock right now and that's the Koni. Those are $770 right now, but were on sale for 20% off last month.

So it'll cost about the same as coils then.

CSG David · 04-02-2013, 03:32 PM

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How long would springs last for? I don't want to get springs just to get coils in the future if the springs fail

It's not the spring that fails. It's the OEM shock that will fatigue over time. With lowering springs, the shock life will decrease. Aftermarket Koni's or shocks have a more performance oriented valving to handle the slightly more performance oriented spring rates. Although this setup may be close to a "coilover" setup in price, this particular suspension setup is better than the cheaper alternatives.

Itssrayyxd · 04-02-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG David

It's not the spring that fails. It's the OEM shock that will fatigue over time. With lowering springs, the shock life will decrease. Aftermarket Koni's or shocks have a more performance oriented valving to handle the slightly more performance oriented spring rates. Although this setup may be close to a "coilover" setup in price, this particular suspension setup is better than the cheaper alternatives.

About how long will it take for the shocks to wear out?

CSG David · 04-02-2013, 04:36 PM

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About how long will it take for the shocks to wear out?

Shock life varies upon use. How abusive you are to them and how many cycles it goes through are just a couple things to take into consideration. You're essentially loading the OEM shock a little extra and causing the shock to work a little harder with lowering springs and slightly higher spring rates. However, if you want the car to look good while you're saving up money for a solid set of coilovers in the future, I'd say lowering springs are fine for purely looks. Just be extra nice to your car over dips and bumps to reduce to impact loading on your shocks.

Itssrayyxd · 04-02-2013, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CSG David

Shock life varies upon use. How abusive you are to them and how many cycles it goes through are just a couple things to take into consideration. You're essentially loading the OEM shock a little extra and causing the shock to work a little harder with lowering springs and slightly higher spring rates. However, if you want the car to look good while you're saving up money for a solid set of coilovers in the future, I'd say lowering springs are fine for purely looks. Just be extra nice to your car over dips and bumps to reduce to impact loading on your shocks.

On average, how long should it last tho? Assuming there is minimal aggressive driving

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