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was385 · 03-18-2013, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DieselxIndustry

Major engine failure, 1 month repair time +time its already been in the shop, wouldn't that just fall under lemon law and they should give you a new replacement car?

If it got to the point where lawyers were involved, I assure you this would be found and any chance of that happening would be out the window.

xwd · 03-18-2013, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DieselxIndustry

Major engine failure, 1 month repair time +time its already been in the shop, wouldn't that just fall under lemon law and they should give you a new replacement car?

Have you bothered reading any of this thread? And you might want to read up on how lemon laws work...

DieselxIndustry · 03-19-2013, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dwx

Have you bothered reading any of this thread? And you might want to read up on how lemon laws work...

I get what he's been using for I'm just asking a question... there's a lot of grey area in terms of what is and what isn't going to be considered a manufacture's defect given his usage. You don't need to reply to an honest question with a response implying the lack of reading and comprehension.

And yes actually I have, and based on my states lemon law guidelines;

(1) the same nonconformity has been subject to repair by the seller, its agents or authorized dealers during the statutory warranty period, 4 or more times, and such nonconformity continues to exist; or

(2) the vehicle has been out of service by reason of repair of nonconformities for a total of 30 or more business days during the statutory warranty period.

robispec · 03-19-2013, 02:44 PM

Texas car= Texas law. IL law has no place in this conversation. Everyone take a break since we all have soooo much fame and money to win at the end of our verbal fight.

DieselxIndustry · 03-19-2013, 04:14 PM

Fair enough, I was just looking for more information on it. Here's the Texas statures. Appears as if its quite similar and perhaps even a bit more purchaser favoring.

(d) There is a reputable presumption that a reasonable number of attempts have been undertaken to conform a motor vehicle to the applicable express warranties if

(1) the same nonconformity has been subject to repair four or more times by the manufacturer, converter, or distributor, its agent, or its franchised dealer and two of the repair attempts have been made within a period of 12 months following the date of original delivery to an owner, or 12,000 miles, whichever occurs first, and the other two repair attempts occur within the 12 months or 12,000 miles immediately following the date of the second repair attempt, whichever occurs first, but such nonconformity continues to exist;
(2) the same nonconformity creates a serious safety hazard and has caused the vehicle to have been subject to repair two or more times by the manufacturer, converter, or distributor, or an authorized agent or franchised dealer, and at least one attempt to repair the nonconformity was made in the period of 12 months or 12,000 miles, whichever occurs first, and at least one other attempt made in the period of 12 months or 12,000 miles after the first repair attempt, whichever occurs first, but the nonconformity continues to exist; or
(3) the vehicle is out of service for repair for a cumulative total of 30 or more days in the 24 months or 24,000 miles, whichever occurs first, and at least two repair attempts were made in the first 12 months or 12,000 miles immediately following the date of original delivery to an owner and a nonconformity still exists that substantially impairs the vehicle's use or market value. The initial 12-month period or 12,000 mile limit, the subsequent 12-month period or 12,000 mile limit, and the 30-day period shall be extended by any period of time during which repair services are not available to the owner because of a war, invasion, strike or fire, flood, or other natural disaster. During any period of time that the manufacturer or distributor lends a comparable motor vehicle to the owner during the time the vehicle is being repaired by a franchised dealer, the 30-day period provided for in this subsection is tolled.

strat61caster · 03-19-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DieselxIndustry

Fair enough, I was just looking for more information on it. Here's the Texas statures. Appears as if its quite similar and perhaps even a bit more purchaser favoring.

He had a tune on it, how in the world can the manufacturer be blamed when the ECU doesn't meet their spec's due to owner modification?

tripjammer · 03-19-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

He had a tune on it, how in the world can the manufacturer be blamed when the ECU doesn't meet their spec's due to owner modification?

Just because you have a tune does not mean there is not a defect somewhere in the engine. I think they are going to do him right. Shit breaks, that's what the warranty is for.

Sportsguy83 · 03-19-2013, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tripjammer

. Shit breaks, that's what the warranty is for.

True, but that's not the way most dealers work.... They want to find out a way to blame you.

tuckdaddy · 03-19-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tripjammer

Just because you have a tune does not mean there is not a defect somewhere in the engine. I think they are going to do him right. Shit breaks, that's what the warranty is for.

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Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

True, but that's not the way most dealers work.... They want to find out a way to blame you.

The dealer he took the car to doesnt pull that shenanigens and actually works with customers. Thankfully San Antonio is blessed with a dealer that keeps its business with great customer service in the service department and doesnt have the stigma of the "stealership"

track_warrior · 03-19-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tripjammer

Just because you have a tune does not mean there is not a defect somewhere in the engine. I think they are going to do him right. Shit breaks, that's what the warranty is for.

Agreed seems like some people want others to get screwed and not covered geez.

Sportsguy83 · 03-19-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pcasso87

Agreed seems like some people want others to get screwed and not covered geez.

I don't think anyone wants to see you screwed. I'm sure you know typically dealers work in complete opposite ways to your current experience. I'm glad they are taking care of you. Congrats!!

strat61caster · 03-19-2013, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pcasso87

Agreed seems like some people want others to get screwed and not covered geez.

Not my intention at all, I agree full investigation before blame gets laid but talk of lemoning the car is premature at best and in my humble opinion bad karma.

DieselxIndustry · 03-20-2013, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

Not my intention at all, I agree full investigation before blame gets laid but talk of lemoning the car is premature at best and in my humble opinion bad karma.

It was a question of eligibility given the timetable he laid out for the engine

Not hey OP! YOU SHOULD LEMON YOUR CAR!

GTM_Challenge · 03-28-2013, 09:06 PM

Any updates? Curious to know how this has turned out for you.

03-19-2013, 04:14 PM	#173
DieselxIndustry Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 Firestorm FR-S Location: West Chicago Posts: 214 Thanks: 13 Thanked 27 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Fair enough, I was just looking for more information on it. Here's the Texas statures. Appears as if its quite similar and perhaps even a bit more purchaser favoring. (d) There is a reputable presumption that a reasonable number of attempts have been undertaken to conform a motor vehicle to the applicable express warranties if (1) the same nonconformity has been subject to repair four or more times by the manufacturer, converter, or distributor, its agent, or its franchised dealer and two of the repair attempts have been made within a period of 12 months following the date of original delivery to an owner, or 12,000 miles, whichever occurs first, and the other two repair attempts occur within the 12 months or 12,000 miles immediately following the date of the second repair attempt, whichever occurs first, but such nonconformity continues to exist; (2) the same nonconformity creates a serious safety hazard and has caused the vehicle to have been subject to repair two or more times by the manufacturer, converter, or distributor, or an authorized agent or franchised dealer, and at least one attempt to repair the nonconformity was made in the period of 12 months or 12,000 miles, whichever occurs first, and at least one other attempt made in the period of 12 months or 12,000 miles after the first repair attempt, whichever occurs first, but the nonconformity continues to exist; or (3) the vehicle is out of service for repair for a cumulative total of 30 or more days in the 24 months or 24,000 miles, whichever occurs first, and at least two repair attempts were made in the first 12 months or 12,000 miles immediately following the date of original delivery to an owner and a nonconformity still exists that substantially impairs the vehicle's use or market value. The initial 12-month period or 12,000 mile limit, the subsequent 12-month period or 12,000 mile limit, and the 30-day period shall be extended by any period of time during which repair services are not available to the owner because of a war, invasion, strike or fire, flood, or other natural disaster. During any period of time that the manufacturer or distributor lends a comparable motor vehicle to the owner during the time the vehicle is being repaired by a franchised dealer, the 30-day period provided for in this subsection is tolled.

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robispec Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: Black frs project Location: Socal Posts: 960 Thanks: 189 Thanked 886 Times in 381 Posts Mentioned: 190 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Texas car= Texas law. IL law has no place in this conversation. Everyone take a break since we all have soooo much fame and money to win at the end of our verbal fight.

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