Which intake did you get?

[zoomzoomers]

Originally Posted by 2forme

I dynoed it, as well as did air temp testing.

2-3whp difference, consistent.

So your saying that there's added benefit with the snorkel off or on?

[2forme]

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

I was actually thinking of getting a pair of stockings and just blocking off the throttle body like we did in the 80's.

Pics or it didn't happen

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

So your saying that there's added benefit with the snorkel off or on?

I'm sorry, 2-3 gained by taking it off.

[zoomzoomers]

Originally Posted by 2forme

Pics or it didn't happen



I'm sorry, 2-3 gained by taking it off.

Unfortunately, I don't know if I have any pics of it. It was way before the digi cam era. All the guys with the hot rod v8's were doing it, so we figured it couldn't hurt. Plus we didn't know any better. I used to run around town in my brother 86' Acura Inegra with the intake tube disconnected because it sounded mean and we thought it felt faster. BTW, that car ran like a champ no matter what dumb sh1t my friends and I did to it.

[zoomzoomers]

Originally Posted by 2forme

Pics or it didn't happen



I'm sorry, 2-3 gained by taking it off.

That's it then. You helped me make my mind up. So I'm going to go back to the stock air box with the AVO inlet tube + drop-in filter and leave the snorkel off. I've been wanting to try going back to stock, but have been avoiding it, but now I have no excuse. Plus, I've really been wanting to test if the Airaid intake is the root of my low gas milage. I guess we will now see.

[2forme]

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

That's it then. You helped me make my mind up. So I'm going to go back to the stock air box with the AVO inlet tube + drop-in filter and leave the snorkel off. I've been wanting to try going back to stock, but have been avoiding it, but now I have no excuse. Plus, I've really been wanting to test if the Airaid intake is the root of my low gas milage. I guess we will now see.

Make sure you post your results.

[zoomzoomers]

Originally Posted by 2forme

Make sure you post your results.

I don't have any fancy data capture measuring tools like some of you guys have, but I'll certainly post up my butt dyno results. LOL

[2forme]

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

I don't have any fancy data capture measuring tools like some of you guys have, but I'll certainly post up my butt dyno results. LOL

Is your butt dyno calibrated like a mustang or dynojet? Don't forget MPG.

[naikaidriver]

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

Unfortunately, I don't know if I have any pics of it. It was way before the digi cam era. All the guys with the hot rod v8's were doing it, so we figured it couldn't hurt. Plus we didn't know any better. I used to run around town in my brother 86' Acura Inegra with the intake tube disconnected because it sounded mean and we thought it felt faster. BTW, that car ran like a champ no matter what dumb sh1t my friends and I did to it.

Lol!
Those were the days when if someone asked me if I changed out my intake, my answer would be something along the lines of;

"Seriously? Do you NOT notice that big chunk of Edelbrock-stamped aluminum sitting on top of the engine block where there used to be a big chunk of iron?"

Those were the days when us "tuners" used vacuum gauges and digital RPM meters to tune AFRs. Also we used feeler gauges, distributor weights, springs and timing lights to set ignition curves!

I miss feeling like I knew what I was doing with cars!

Scott

[naikaidriver]

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

I don't have any fancy data capture measuring tools like some of you guys have, but I'll certainly post up my butt dyno results. LOL

Just so we're clear... there's no need to post a picture of that dyno result!

Scott

[zoomzoomers]

Originally Posted by 2forme

Is your butt dyno calibrated like a mustang or dynojet? Don't forget MPG.

Not really sure how to calibrate my butt dyno, but I'll make sure to eat a solid meal before. LOL

Originally Posted by naikaidriver

Lol!
Those were the days when if someone asked me if I changed out my intake, my answer would be something along the lines of;

"Seriously? Do you NOT notice that big chunk of Edelbrock-stamped aluminum sitting on top of the engine block where there used to be a big chunk of iron?"

Those were the days when us "tuners" used vacuum gauges and digital RPM meters to tune AFRs. Also we used feeler gauges, distributor weights, springs and timing lights to set ignition curves!

I miss feeling like I knew what I was doing with cars!

Scott

Back then, my buddies and I were removing the springs from the strut/shocks and cutting the springs to lower the cars in our back yard. We had to stop doing that when one of my friends broke his arm in 3 places. See, we didn't have spring compressors, we actually didn't have any tools other than the garden variety house tools, and we would loosen the bolts on the strut/shocks and them release the spring to a 2 foot high brick wall on my front lawn. Worked great for like the first 20 times until one spring went wild and hit my friend and broke his arm. LMAO

Ahh those were the days.

Originally Posted by naikaidriver

Just so we're clear... there's no need to post a picture of that dyno result!

Scott

Point taken! LOL

[Kodename47]

Originally Posted by 2forme

I'm sorry, 2-3 gained by taking it off.

Surely that's enough to be caused by variance?

Here's my MAF readings that I did:
Green is OEM
Blue is no snorkel
Red is dyno run with all resonators removed but blocked up (5th gear run)


I can't see how less airflow = more power, unless the MAF reading is thrown out enough to make it run unintentionally leaner. The IATs though without the snorkel was enough to make me never want to run like that. It was ok for 10-15 mins but once the car was warm it ran so poorly. From my experience you'll gain those 1/2 hp for 10 mins then spend the rest of the time losing more!

Here's my temperature/MAF thread. Temperature in deg. C on the right BTW.

[2forme]

Originally Posted by Kodename47

Surely that's enough to be caused by variance?

Here's my MAF readings that I did:
Green is OEM
Blue is no snorkel
Red is dyno run with all resonators removed but blocked up (5th gear run)


I can't see how less airflow = more power, unless the MAF reading is thrown out enough to make it run unintentionally leaner. The IATs though without the snorkel was enough to make me never want to run like that. It was ok for 10-15 mins but once the car was warm it ran so poorly. From my experience you'll gain those 1/2 hp for 10 mins then spend the rest of the time losing more!

Here's my temperature/MAF thread. Temperature in deg. C on the right BTW.

Here is a dyno. I did 3 runs without the snorkel, and this was the middle one compared to with snorkel. Notice the AFR and peak numbers.

[Turdinator]

In regards too the snorkel being a restriction this was posted in another thread...

Originally Posted by Martin Donnon

Our Maxspeed is in the air on the way to us to use on our WR86 development car. Data from the dyno shows a 2kpa pressure drop in the inlet system from around 5800rpm falling away until 8000rpm. If this duct relieves that restriction then it will be worth a few horsepower in stationery (dyno) testing, and possibly a little more at 80mph plus. Time will tell

Originally Posted by Martin Donnon

Its a simple fact. Log the manifold pressure of your 86/BRZ in a full throttle pull and you will see that with the stock airbox/snorkel there is a pressure drop (negative boost) in the intake of around 0.1psi. Remove that without some nasty hot air induction system under the hood, and hey-presto you have your gains!

This is nothing new in tuning/modifying cars. Maxspeed should do the job nicely.

Originally Posted by Martin Donnon

Maxspeed racing inlet duct fitted and tested. Pressure drop is halved. Dyno gains - measured properly, not sales orientated Disney Dynoing, shows around 3rwhp over the factory snorkel. Zero driveability issues. Its a good thing

Forum member is an Aussie race team that are making around the 200hp at the wheels on their own setup.

Quotes are from this thread LINK

[zoomzoomers]

Ok guys English please... I'm now more confused then ever.

Can you guys just spot it out in plain ebonics?

Yes my sizzle my nizzle on the snorkel? Or no my nizzle my bizzle?