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Old 02-27-2013, 03:05 PM   #43
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You realize that's not the point, right? Nor does "I thought of it first" mean anything. They released a component, strictly straight pipe. Then all of a sudden you have a solution to the complaints regarding droning/noise level with the identical product, but you added a muffler...

I'm not saying you didn't think of it first. And I'm not saying that you stole the design. All I'm saying is, try not to harp on someone about 'stealing' your completely generic design when an argument could easily be made that you did the same, but are generating a profit from it.

For the third time, don't throw stones.... (I'll finish it this time for you) in a glass house.
When did i ever say that someone STOLE our design? I didnt even bring up berks or mach v until you did.

Since youre really into this, why dont you buy the exhaust and do all the critique you want?

Ill maybe thrown in a free filter for you just to resolve the tension between us
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:14 PM   #44
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When did i ever say that someone STOLE our design? I didnt even bring up berks or mach v until you did.

Since youre really into this, why dont you buy the exhaust and do all the critique you want?

Ill maybe thrown in a free filter for you just to resolve the tension between us
So you can imply that I plan to steal your product, repeatedly, but the accusation doesn't count because you didn't use the term 'steal'?

How about I buy the exhaust and you send the FREE filter to one of the vendors who offered free testing, regardless of what type of dyno they own?

And there's no need to ease tension. I hold nothing personally, and our debating doesn't deter me from ordering parts from you (though your business practice and avoidance tactics displayed in the previous thread do).

I've got my eye on some plate frames to go with my new Perrin front plate bracket...
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Personally I don't like the fact that the OP is putting conditions that it must be a Dynapack (which from my understanding does inflate hp #'s), but that is my opinion.
The reason for a baseline figure and then a after figure in the same running conditions is that you can calculate a % increase. The numbers are meaningless as they will change between dynos but across all dynos the % power increase will be the same. People should stop reading into exact figures. That's also why a baseline-less run is meaningless as so many variables can change the numerical output..... IMO, Area under the graph > peak figure
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:34 PM   #46
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The reason for a baseline figure and then a after figure in the same running conditions is that you can calculate a % increase. The numbers are meaningless as they will change between dynos but across all dynos the % power increase will be the same. People should stop reading into exact figures. That's also why a baseline-less run is meaningless as so many variables can change the numerical output..... IMO, Area under the graph > peak figure
Well, like I said. I'm more than willing to do 2 runs if funds are raised lol. I'm willing to do what is necessary...FOR SCIENCE!!!
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:49 PM   #47
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It's cold outside so I'm trying to warm up by the flamewar.
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:51 PM   #48
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It's cold outside so I'm trying to warm up by the flamewar.
Why people spend so much energy on this is beyond me, pick oiled or non-oiled and a brand you like and be done....
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:56 PM   #49
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Why people spend so much energy on this is beyond me, pick oiled or non-oiled and a brand you like and be done....
I did. I chose K&N for their reputation and thorough testing procedures. I know what gains to expect, and what level of filtration quality is standard for their products.

I just hate when I see this type of misleading, cloudy business practice in what should (could) become a close-knit community that sticks together.

The last car community I was involved in was the mr2 community, which was great to be a part of.
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some1 post the dyno for this filter and be done with this nonsense i bought the filter and i can honestly say it packs a punch..
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:38 PM   #51
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This thread is even more interesting than the deleted one.
It's like watching a sequel, only this time the sequel is better
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:23 PM   #53
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This thread is even more interesting than the deleted one.
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Won't be much longer and this one will be deleted.
I think we are in for a few "episodes" until someone ponies up and posts a before and after Dyno to put this issue to bed, which would be good for the community and 86_ZN6.
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:32 PM   #54
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Ok guys, third party dyno results are in. Here are my results:




Seems pretty legit.
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