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kidgogeta · 02-13-2013, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawaiian

I'm currently running the full P&L header back with a high flow cat. It's a 2.5" system.

do you know how loud the P&L is compared to the SRT? cuz this looks like a sweet upgrade

Hawaiian · 02-13-2013, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidgogeta

do you know how loud the P&L is compared to the SRT? cuz this looks like a sweet upgrade

Afiak the P&L is quieter than the SRT, but I haven't heard one in person to compare.

Hawaiian · 02-13-2013, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by industrial

Probable something to do with emissions and tuning the engine to keep the cats happy. These results are better than I expected for the midrange for sure. It's almost tiny-turbo like midrange. Too bad it still kind of falls on it's face up top.

Well, the tune was, unfortunately canned, and not customized for the new header. Hopefully we get some really nice results on friday with the new tune.

CircuitJerk · 02-13-2013, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kidgogeta

do you know how loud the P&L is compared to the SRT? cuz this looks like a sweet upgrade

I'd like to do a side by side comparo with @Hawaiian.
I have the SRT catback with the P&L overpipe and catless midpipe, so basically a catless headerback. I know mine is probably as loud now, or probably even louder still.
I love the sound but it's getting to be too much. The P&L rear section is becoming more and more attractive for me.

Hawaiian · 02-13-2013, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CircuitJerk

I'd like to do a side by side comparo with @Hawaiian.
I have the SRT catback with the P&L overpipe and catless midpipe, so basically a catless headerback. I know mine is probably as loud now, or probably even louder still.
I love the sound but it's getting to be too much. The P&L rear section is becoming more and more attractive for me.

I'll be at the shop friday am if you want to swing by.

CircuitJerk · 02-13-2013, 07:57 PM

I may stop by to check yours out, but I don't think I'll have the FR-S that day, unfortunately. Probably too soon.

industrial · 02-13-2013, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

Well, the tune was, unfortunately canned, and not customized for the new header. Hopefully we get some really nice results on friday with the new tune.

I hope so man! So far I haven't seen anything outside of FI that helps maintain the power up top though.

sw20kosh · 02-13-2013, 11:58 PM

Nameless header +tune also got rid of the torque dip!!!

Ingen · 02-14-2013, 08:53 AM

I would love to see a catted header that can achieve similar dip-eliminating torque-monster results as these!

P&L Motorsports · 02-15-2013, 12:20 PM

The Hawaiin has arrived, updates to follow.

-Dylan@P&L

naikaidriver · 02-15-2013, 12:44 PM

Thanks so much for keeping us all posted guys!

Scott

Hawaiian · 02-15-2013, 01:15 PM

If only there was a way to get more out of this car...

FA20Club at work

P&L Motorsports · 02-15-2013, 06:37 PM

Quick update from the day:

First and foremost, big thanks to Hawaiian, and Tony at FA20Club. R&D is usually a pain, but it helps when the parties involved are all competent and helpful. So, thanks again guys.

Onto the day... After several dyno pulls and back-and-forths for new tunes, we were 1.09HP away from 200. Next time. However it did still put down some lovely numbers.

Also, some valid concerns were raised while doing the testing. The major one I wanted to cover is STX compatibility. We are happy to say that we will offer an STX friendly catted version of the Header for all you SCCA AX'ers out there.

-Dylan@P&L

Edit: @Hawaiian -- We have your laptop charger.

Simmons · 02-15-2013, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by P&L Motorsports

Quick update from the day:

First and foremost, big thanks to Hawaiian, and Tony at FA20Club. R&D is usually a pain, but it helps when the parties involved are all competent and helpful. So, thanks again guys.

Onto the day... After several dyno pulls and back-and-forths for new tunes, we were 1.09HP away from 200. Next time. However it did still put down some lovely numbers.

Also, some valid concerns were raised while doing the testing. The major one I wanted to cover is STX compatibility. We are happy to say that we will offer an STX friendly catted version of the Header for all you SCCA AX'ers out there.

-Dylan@P&L

Edit: @Hawaiian -- We have your laptop charger.

Looks good, you don't need a catted header for STX, you can use a HFC in the front pipe instead.

Simmons

02-14-2013, 08:53 AM	#65
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P&L Motorsports Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: '13 Turbo BRZ (AT) & '13 FRS Location: Lisle, IL Posts: 1,323 Thanks: 158 Thanked 355 Times in 157 Posts Mentioned: 44 Post(s)	Quick update from the day: First and foremost, big thanks to Hawaiian, and Tony at FA20Club. R&D is usually a pain, but it helps when the parties involved are all competent and helpful. So, thanks again guys. Onto the day... After several dyno pulls and back-and-forths for new tunes, we were 1.09HP away from 200. Next time. However it did still put down some lovely numbers. Also, some valid concerns were raised while doing the testing. The major one I wanted to cover is STX compatibility. We are happy to say that we will offer an STX friendly catted version of the Header for all you SCCA AX'ers out there. -Dylan@P&L Edit: @Hawaiian -- We have your laptop charger.

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