FRS vs. 2g Mitsubishi eclipse gst/gsx - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

bazi · 02-07-2013, 11:55 AM

So the questions is...

whaap · 02-07-2013, 12:31 PM

One is a sports car and one is a wanna-be.

Skywgn1 · 02-09-2013, 03:13 PM

Sorry to say but I think the first generation GSX in new condition would mop the floor with our twins. AWD Turbo.......Come on. The GST would not last on a road course.

DeeezNuuuts83 · 02-09-2013, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by whaap

One is a sports car and one is a wanna-be.

Maybe now, we view it that way. But at the time, the car was pretty hot. If you were into sub-$30,000 imports in the '90s, the Eclipse GS-T/GSX was likely on your wishlist. It's a shame how Mitsubishi neutered the Eclipse from 2000 onward.

That being said, when talking about stock cars, the GSX would have put up a fight in a straight line, as I remember it being capable of doing high-14s in stock trim. But outside of that, either Eclipse turbo would have been beaten in any measurable aspect of performance by either of the twins. The GSX weighed about as much as the Evo VIII and IX did (a little south of 3,300 lb) but had "only" 210 hp propelling it along with a far less capable AWD system, suspension, brakes, etc. The GS-T was a little bit lighter than the GSX, but it wasn't anything that would really make it any better (aside from acceleration from a roll) while giving up the GSX's launch and handling.

fatoni · 02-09-2013, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Skywgn1

Sorry to say but I think the first generation GSX in new condition would mop the floor with our twins. AWD Turbo.......Come on. The GST would not last on a road course.

i feel like you are giving a turbo and awd way too much credit.

WolfsFang · 02-10-2013, 12:55 AM

Thats a hard decision, my first car was a 1995 eclipse GSX with a 2b front end. Platform is huge with mods. Wish I had never sold that car, had more fun in that thing then the evo. It's really up to you, do you want a new RWD car or a older car but with tunes of modding/tuning support.

was385 · 02-10-2013, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83

Maybe now, we view it that way. But at the time, the car was pretty hot. If you were into sub-$30,000 imports in the '90s, the Eclipse GS-T/GSX was likely on your wishlist. It's a shame how Mitsubishi neutered the Eclipse from 2000 onward.

So true. We drove by one of the new ones the other day and my stepsister who is looking for a new car goes, "I want one of those... it's SO CUTE!!!!". For a car that could run well up over $30k, that thing is just an embarrassment.

Lonewolf · 02-10-2013, 01:46 AM

I had a dsm back in the day...whole different animal from the FRS/BRZ. Intake/Exhaust and a boost controller made the dsm feel like a rocketship...then a t3/t4 turbo swap actually made it fast

The dsm had a ton of body roll stock and it was always testing my patience with annoying little issues.

Chen · 02-10-2013, 02:00 AM

I liked them at first. Then I saw the fast and the furious and it killed it for me.

DeeezNuuuts83 · 02-10-2013, 02:04 AM

But that bodystyle was already out of production for two years by the time the movie came out. So it didn't kill anything that wasn't already dead, haha.

Chen · 02-10-2013, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83

But that bodystyle was already out of production for two years by the time the movie came out. So it didn't kill anything that wasn't already dead, haha.

Lol it killed my vibe to search for one as a used car!

DeeezNuuuts83 · 02-10-2013, 03:10 AM

Oh haha. I was actually in the market for one at least a year before the movie came out, and they were already getting hard to find since GSX owners didn't really want to let them go.

jwbrocloud · 02-10-2013, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fatoni

i feel like you are giving a turbo and awd way too much credit.

Credit is given where credit is due. Those cars being turbo made them very fun to drive. And if you were lucky enough to have an awd one you had a car that got great traction plus handled pretty well for their time.

fatoni · 02-10-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jwbrocloud

Credit is given where credit is due. Those cars being turbo made them very fun to drive. And if you were lucky enough to have an awd one you had a car that got great traction plus handled pretty well for their time.

yeah i get that but there is a huge difference between giving credit where its due or being good for its time and saying it will mop the floor with the twins. turbo or not it only has like 210 hp and im not sure that archaic awd systems make cars that much faster

02-07-2013, 11:55 AM	#1
bazi Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 6MT Asphalt FR-S Location: high point, nc Posts: 61 Thanks: 13 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FRS vs. 2g Mitsubishi eclipse gst/gsx So the questions is...

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Skywgn1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S (manual) Location: Idaho Posts: 249 Thanks: 83 Thanked 53 Times in 41 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Sorry to say but I think the first generation GSX in new condition would mop the floor with our twins. AWD Turbo.......Come on. The GST would not last on a road course. __________________ Customize the piss out of it and call it yours!

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WolfsFang Scrape Master Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Goal: Oldest FRS State Side Location: North NJ Posts: 1,161 Thanks: 238 Thanked 412 Times in 238 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thats a hard decision, my first car was a 1995 eclipse GSX with a 2b front end. Platform is huge with mods. Wish I had never sold that car, had more fun in that thing then the evo. It's really up to you, do you want a new RWD car or a older car but with tunes of modding/tuning support. __________________ You do realize comparing the BRZ to the FR-S is like comparing which hand you love masterbating too right?

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DeeezNuuuts83 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2006 Evo IX SE Location: Southern California Posts: 997 Thanks: 115 Thanked 254 Times in 170 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	But that bodystyle was already out of production for two years by the time the movie came out. So it didn't kill anything that wasn't already dead, haha.

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DeeezNuuuts83 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2006 Evo IX SE Location: Southern California Posts: 997 Thanks: 115 Thanked 254 Times in 170 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Oh haha. I was actually in the market for one at least a year before the movie came out, and they were already getting hard to find since GSX owners didn't really want to let them go.

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