Stainless steel brake line upgrade?

[WingsofWar]

Like what Dave said, to improve braking distance tires are the first id go with.

But SS lines are beautiful upgrades, especially if you plan on tracking your car.

It makes more sense to upgrade to SS lines when the ambient temps at the track are pretty high, and when you have sections of long trailbraking where fade is more prominent.

When I set my cars up for the track, I typically get SSlines the same time i get track pads

[Hanakuso]

Originally Posted by MrTranxD

I did the SS brake lines and also did the TiC MCB. The brakes feel way firmer. Feel like i can stop much faster. Planning on getting new fluid with new pads soon also.

It feels firmer and feels like you're stopping faster, but in reality I doubt you're stopping any faster.

Originally Posted by JRitt

We can skip dinner and get to the good stuff.

Anything for us Essex brake guys? I want to pick up a pair of the AP rotors dedicated for the track.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Hanakuso

Anything for us Essex brake guys? I want to pick up a pair of the AP rotors dedicated for the track.

With new hats or without? Without hats and my laziness would prevent me from swapping rotors

I want to try out some new pads, need to talk to Jeff about that eventually.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by JRitt

Pads will have the greatest impact on feel. Lines will help, but you won't feel as much difference as a pad swap.

FYI...I'm about to run a Valentine's Day special on a Ferodo DS2500 pads, Spiegler SS lines, and AP Racing fluid bundle.

Anything sweet for your other customers?

[6-Shift]

Honestly I'm not worried about boiling my brake fluid or extreme track use, I just want more constant brake feel. I'm one of the weirdos who like driving on the stock tires. I like brakes that grab hard. In the future I plan on upgrading rotors and pads to a decent street setup, especially if I end up with heavier wheels. Interesting thread so far.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Missourifornian

Honestly I'm not worried about boiling my brake fluid or extreme track use, I just want more constant brake feel. I'm one of the weirdos who like driving on the stock tires. I like brakes that grab hard. In the future I plan on upgrading rotors and pads to a decent street setup, especially if I end up with heavier wheels. Interesting thread so far.

Rotors won't get you anything. Seriously, save your money (unless you go bling two piece dba rotors that are lighter than stock). OEM pads are just fine on the street too.

[Shankenstein]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Rotors won't get you anything. Seriously, save your money (unless you go bling two piece dba rotors that are lighter than stock). OEM pads are just fine on the street too.

Do you think that brake ducts would be a cheapish way to prep for the track? Pads, fluid, lines, and ducts seem to be the most bang for your buck.

It makes me happy to think that our "overkill brakes" could use $30-50 centric blanks from RockAuto. I'd keep a stack of em in the garage at that price.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Shankenstein

Do you think that brake ducts would be a cheapish way to prep for the track? Pads, fluid, lines, and ducts seem to be the most bang for your buck.

It makes me happy to think that our "overkill brakes" could use $30-50 centric blanks from RockAuto. I'd keep a stack of em in the garage at that price.

The OP is talking about street use. I destroyed my OEM brakes on the track and no longer use OEM fronts

Ducting, pads and fluid will help out for sure and are worth trying. I didn't want to remove my foglights to run ducts.

[Panman]

I've done:

Pads (TRD Pads)
Fluid (Motul RBF 600)
Lines (HEL Stainless)
Speedbleeders (For convenience)
MCB (Beatrush MCB)

Makes a huge difference to the feel of the brakes if not the actual stopping power.

Certainly sufficient for fast road, light track duties.

Next in line rotors but don't feel the need right now.

[6-Shift]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Rotors won't get you anything. Seriously, save your money (unless you go bling two piece dba rotors that are lighter than stock). OEM pads are just fine on the street too.

I would do rotors+pads+lines+master cylinder brace at the same time hopefully if I wanted to do that.

[OrbitalEllipses]

DBA two-piece rotors in stock WRX fitment? I'll have to dig those up, but I haven't seen those in YEARS.

[PMok]

ok after having the chance to drive someone's FRS with SS brake lines I'm sold, I want the nice hard pedal feel. He had the Stoptechs.

I already have pads, fluid, MCB. But I was impressed how his car with stock everything else plus the SS lines felt so much more like what I was wanting. So what brand is best, or are they all pretty much doing the same thing? Quickly searching I see:

-Stoptech
-P&L
-Goodridge
-Spiegler
-Challenge

some advice/feedback would be great.

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by PMok

ok after having the chance to drive someone's FRS with SS brake lines I'm sold, I want the nice hard pedal feel. He had the Stoptechs.

I already have pads, fluid, MCB. But I was impressed how his car with stock everything else plus the SS lines felt so much more like what I was wanting. So what brand is best, or are they all pretty much doing the same thing? Quickly searching I see:

-Stoptech
-P&L
-Goodridge
-Spiegler
-Challenge

some advice/feedback would be great.

They essentially do the same thing. I just know that Spiegler has put in more effort to produce these lines. Stoptech and Goodridge have been known to make SS lines for awhile. PM sent.

[PMok]

Originally Posted by CSG David

They essentially do the same thing. I just know that Spiegler has put in more effort to produce these lines. Stoptech and Goodridge have been known to make SS lines for awhile. PM sent.

Thanks for the PM David! Yeah I guess I kind of knew they would all do the same thing. BTW I didn't mention that I have a set of Porterfield SS lines on my MR2. Not sure if they make any for BRZ/FRS yet though.

Anyways I guess the kind of feedback I'm looking for is more, which ones are DOT approved or street legal vs. race/offroad only, which ones are easier to install or have OEM fitment/quality vs purely functional/ziptie fitment haha.