Great results with Cquartz instead of Opticoat - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

BryceRocket · 02-04-2013, 01:47 PM

On Sunday I had Bryan at Concours Touch auto detailing (http://www.concourstouch.com/) do a new car prep and Cquartz finest application. I thought the car looked decent when I picked it up from the dealer, but it's on a whole new level now. Saved some money in polishing time by getting this done now, and hopefully keep the scratches to a minimum.

Amazing how much deeper the paint looks with the Cquartz applied. Went for the Cquartz over the OptiGuard because of the 2-year warranty, and also the product seemed to be a little harder to scratch and objectively better shine.

Here's a couple cellphone shots when I picked it up. Highly recommend Bryan, he really does a great job.

chenshuo · 02-04-2013, 01:57 PM

the question is, has it been proven to last as long as opti-coat?

brianc · 02-04-2013, 03:14 PM

I don't see how its a valid comparison. I'd like to see someone opticoat half their car and cquartz the other half and see which one lasts longer.

s2kdrew · 02-04-2013, 03:42 PM

he had cquartz finest, not the regular cquartz. and is not a product any detailer could get.

TemeCal · 02-04-2013, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianc

I don't see how its a valid comparison. I'd like to see someone opticoat half their car and cquartz the other half and see which one lasts longer.

This guy did side-by-side comparisons (half cquartz, half opticoat). Documented and took pictures of the entire process:

Click Here

picus · 02-04-2013, 04:06 PM

I don't think which one lasts longer will really be the determining factor when people choose Finest or OC; Finest is only marketed as lasting three years max. OC is billed as permanent, and has been around for 5+ years and shows no signs of failing on most cars. The guys getting Finest are doing it because it has a warranty, is is subjectively shinier than OC, it's much slicker, and seems to clean up a little easier. OC is less expensive since it isn't authorized detailers only. So while they are both coatings technically compete with each other, I think they are different enough currently that most people will choose based on which one suits them best.

BryceRocket · 02-04-2013, 04:28 PM

I definitely opted for the cquartz finest because I liked the finish better and seemed smoother. I never expected it to last more than a couple years, but we'll see how it holds up.

Just hadn't seen nearly as many cars with cquartz finest compared to opticoat, so I wanted to share a good experience. Bryan who did the car really likes the product and so far I agree.

Tdotmale · 02-05-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chenshuo

the question is, has it been proven to last as long as opti-coat?

nope. it hasn't been on the market long enough compared to OC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by picus

I don't think which one lasts longer will really be the determining factor when people choose Finest or OC; Finest is only marketed as lasting three years max. OC is billed as permanent, and has been around for 5+ years and shows no signs of failing on most cars. The guys getting Finest are doing it because it has a warranty, is is subjectively shinier than OC, it's much slicker, and seems to clean up a little easier. OC is less expensive since it isn't authorized detailers only. So while they are both coatings technically compete with each other, I think they are different enough currently that most people will choose based on which one suits them best.

the durability of the product will certainly be a determining factor. when searching the products, came across a test that OC was tested with washes using only dawn soap and automatic car washes for several years and it held up. no such thing has been done for cquartz f.

OC also has a warranty and also has a authorized detailer list.

picus · 02-05-2013, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tdotmale

nope. it hasn't been on the market long enough compared to OC.

the durability of the product will certainly be a determining factor. when searching the products, came across a test that OC was tested with washes using only dawn soap and automatic car washes for several years and it held up. no such thing has been done for cquartz f.

OC also has a warranty and also has a authorized detailer list.

I think you may have missed my point. Of course living up to the stated durability is key. That said, Finest is sold as lasting two years, OC is sold as permanent. If durability is the only factor I don't think many will cross shop the two; OC would be the obvious choice. That is why I mentioned that they are different enough to cater to different peoples needs.

RE: authorized installers/warranty - yes, opti coat pro (which is replacing OG, and is warrantied) has an authorized installers list. Opti Coat with no warranty will still be commercially available. I brought that up only to mention that Finest will have a higher upcharge than non warrantied Opti Coat. Opti Coat pro will have the same upcharge as Finest in most cases.

BryceRocket · 02-06-2013, 10:30 PM

Bryan had mentioned to me that the OC Pro warranty isn't available in Canada... No idea why.

asia_minor · 02-06-2013, 11:06 PM

OC was never about looks, just putting it out there. when I want the car to look it's best, i always top off with some wax, even though it will only stick to the OC for a few days.

picus · 02-07-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BryceRocket

Bryan had mentioned to me that the OC Pro warranty isn't available in Canada... No idea why.

He's right. It's because right now the insurance company that covers the warranty will only cover the U.S. So until that changes the only warrantied coating is Finest. Currently I think there are only three guys authorized to install it in Canada, two in the GTA and one near Windsor. http://www.carpro-us.com/authorized-finest-installers/

tuckdaddy · 02-07-2013, 05:22 PM

The c-quartz will look much better than opticoat and require a slight bit less care while retaing a bright deep finish

had Jason my local Adams Polishes rep here in San Antonio show me on his truck half the hood is opticoat and the other c-quartz and after 8 months and many automatic paint killing washes later the cquartz was amoother and held a deaper shine than opticoat with less swirling/scrathces

both these products are essentially clear coat for your clear coat...Does not protect againt rockchips or any other shananigens like that.

If i were to ever put a "Nano-Sealent" on my car i would go with c-quartz much better product

Sport-Tech · 02-08-2013, 12:47 AM

Car looks great...now lose the ugly dealer-advertising plate holders and you're good to go.

02-04-2013, 01:47 PM	#1
BryceRocket Senor Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: Asphalt FR-S Location: Dundas Posts: 36 Thanks: 29 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Great results with Cquartz instead of Opticoat On Sunday I had Bryan at Concours Touch auto detailing (http://www.concourstouch.com/) do a new car prep and Cquartz finest application. I thought the car looked decent when I picked it up from the dealer, but it's on a whole new level now. Saved some money in polishing time by getting this done now, and hopefully keep the scratches to a minimum. Amazing how much deeper the paint looks with the Cquartz applied. Went for the Cquartz over the OptiGuard because of the 2-year warranty, and also the product seemed to be a little harder to scratch and objectively better shine. Here's a couple cellphone shots when I picked it up. Highly recommend Bryan, he really does a great job.

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s2kdrew Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 hot lava FRS Location: GTA Posts: 142 Thanks: 3 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	he had cquartz finest, not the regular cquartz. and is not a product any detailer could get. __________________ 2013 FRS 2000 S2000 2004 RSX-S 2002 RSX

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chenshuo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: WRB BRZ Location: Toronto Posts: 1,260 Thanks: 259 Thanked 473 Times in 245 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	the question is, has it been proven to last as long as opti-coat?

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brianc OCD Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 293 Thanks: 0 Thanked 74 Times in 42 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't see how its a valid comparison. I'd like to see someone opticoat half their car and cquartz the other half and see which one lasts longer.

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picus Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: FJ Location: Mississauga, ON Posts: 76 Thanks: 5 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't think which one lasts longer will really be the determining factor when people choose Finest or OC; Finest is only marketed as lasting three years max. OC is billed as permanent, and has been around for 5+ years and shows no signs of failing on most cars. The guys getting Finest are doing it because it has a warranty, is is subjectively shinier than OC, it's much slicker, and seems to clean up a little easier. OC is less expensive since it isn't authorized detailers only. So while they are both coatings technically compete with each other, I think they are different enough currently that most people will choose based on which one suits them best.

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BryceRocket Senor Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: Asphalt FR-S Location: Dundas Posts: 36 Thanks: 29 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I definitely opted for the cquartz finest because I liked the finish better and seemed smoother. I never expected it to last more than a couple years, but we'll see how it holds up. Just hadn't seen nearly as many cars with cquartz finest compared to opticoat, so I wanted to share a good experience. Bryan who did the car really likes the product and so far I agree.

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BryceRocket Senor Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: Asphalt FR-S Location: Dundas Posts: 36 Thanks: 29 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Bryan had mentioned to me that the OC Pro warranty isn't available in Canada... No idea why.

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Sport-Tech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Drives: TBD Location: Toronto Posts: 2,583 Thanks: 665 Thanked 685 Times in 386 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Car looks great...now lose the ugly dealer-advertising plate holders and you're good to go.

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