New Products: Front/Rear AP Racing Formula Brake Systems- fit stock wheels!

[JRitt]

Originally Posted by schtebie

Any idea how much replacement rotors will run?

I'll let you know as soon as I know! Thanks for your patience.

[JRitt]

Originally Posted by Captain Insano

Thanks for estimate! Do you think the rear kit will drop weight as well?

I honestly don't know. The caliper will definitely be lighter, but it will be using a one-piece disc. I should have a rear kit in my hands next week, so I'll definitely dissect it and post info asap.

[Ro_Ja]

[JRitt]

Thanks for the orders gents! :happy0180:
I only have one black caliper kit available from the initial batch. Who wants it? Bueller?

I still have a couple of red caliper kits available from the first shipment.

Thanks.

[JRitt]

Hi Guys,
Update...please see caliper pics below with weights. The CP6628 calipers in these systems weigh in at roughly 5.86 lbs. each. Add in another 2 lbs. for the brackets, and you're looking at about 8 lbs. The OEM calipers & bracket weigh 11.6 lbs. Total weight savings on the caliper are going to be at minimum 3 lbs. per side. Discs should shave a few pounds per side as well. So we may be in the minus 6-7 lbs. range per front corner of the car...

[TouchMyHonda]

Not knocking the kit, looks fantastic. However, why wouldn't a person just upgrade to 05-08 sti brakes? The dimensions seem similar, as I would imagine the performance. I is the ignorant.

[stockysnail]

I have a question for @JRitt
I've seen you comment that if you take your car to a track day, even if it's only once a year, that the dust boots in the calipers will be damaged from the heat. What happens to the Sprint kit type of brakes that don't have dust boots when driven daily in all the weather I have in the northwest? I'd like to get a better brake system, and can't afford two systems, but don't want it to fail if I can prevent it. I realize that if I purchased the Sprint kit that I could just swap back and forth between oem (or the kit in this thread) and Sprint with some wrench turning, but if I was to only use one or the other all the time with the above info, what are your thoughts?

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by TouchMyHonda

Not knocking the kit, looks fantastic. However, why wouldn't a person just upgrade to 05-08 sti brakes? The dimensions seem similar, as I would imagine the performance. I is the ignorant.

Improper bias and huge weight gain. The STI caliper will NOT remotely fit under stock wheels either. The STI rotor has more thermal capacity, but unless you're buying the expensive stock replacement rotors your vane count is crap.

You can use 04-CURRENT STI brakes up front actually, as long as rotors are 2004 5x100 PCD.

[JRitt]

Originally Posted by stockysnail

I have a question for @JRitt
I've seen you comment that if you take your car to a track day, even if it's only once a year, that the dust boots in the calipers will be damaged from the heat. What happens to the Sprint kit type of brakes that don't have dust boots when driven daily in all the weather I have in the northwest? I'd like to get a better brake system, and can't afford two systems, but don't want it to fail if I can prevent it. I realize that if I purchased the Sprint kit that I could just swap back and forth between oem (or the kit in this thread) and Sprint with some wrench turning, but if I was to only use one or the other all the time with the above info, what are your thoughts?

Dust boots could be damaged from heat, but that depends on how hard they are run, who is driving, the track, modifications to the car, etc...a million factors go into that either happening or not happening. There are no guarantees one way or the other. Some people can probably do a whole season on a road kit without hurting the dust boots.

If you're going to daily drive your car in nasty weather and do a track day once in a while, the Formula Kit is the better choice. It will hold up better in consistent nasty weather. When I say nasty weather, I'm talking about road salt being used. As I mentioned in another thread, road salt eats aluminum parts. It will attack the hats, brackets, and calipers in any kit...road or race. Rain doesn't really matter. Rain really won't hurt one type of kit more than the other. It's a non-issue in my opinion.

It will still offer most of the same advantages of the Competition System (greater heat capacity, lighter weight, better feel, etc.). It just doesn't take those advantages quite to the extreme level as the Competition Systems. You don't save quite as much weight, you won't have quite as many race pad options, you won't have stainless steel pistons, you won't have anti-knockback springs. Those things matter a lot when you're trying to scratch a tenth of a second from your lap time, save the last 3-5 lbs., or if you're going to be constantly cracking discs and burning up pads at the track. They don't matter as much if you're mostly going to be driving to work.

The Formula Kit featured in this thread is going to be a killer track upgrade over stock. It has similar features to just about any of the best big brake kits that have been offered in the aftermarket traditionally. The Competition Systems are something that the aftermarket has never seen before. They are just beefed up a bit for a full out track assault, without much consideration for any other usage.

[ICantAffordAnLFA]

Choices , choices

[JRitt]

Originally Posted by ICantAffordAnLFA

Choices , choices

Fortunately, you really can't lose regardless of which kit you choose from our offerings. You're going to get the highest quality AP Racing calipers and discs, from the company that supplies the top race series' in the world. It's just a matter of how extreme you want to go. That's the beauty of having these choices.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by JRitt

Fortunately, you really can't lose regardless of which kit you choose from our offerings. You're going to get the highest quality AP Racing calipers and discs, from the company that supplies the top race series' in the world. It's just a matter of how extreme you want to go. That's the beauty of having these choices.

Only thing you're losing is a fat chunk of change, rofl.

:happy0180:


I'm going to bug you everyday until these are here Jeff.

[Captain Insano]

Thanks for weighing those and the additional info as usual JRitt!! I would love it if this kit was in the area of 6-8 lbs loss per front corner. I still am sooo torn between competition sprint and this kit. That -10 per front corner in the sprint has me drooling.

[Slartibartfast]

Originally Posted by JRitt

Hi Guys,
Update...please see caliper pics below with weights. The CP6628 calipers in these systems weigh in at roughly 5.86 lbs. each. Add in another 2 lbs. for the brackets, and you're looking at about 8 lbs. The OEM calipers & bracket weigh 11.6 lbs. Total weight savings on the caliper are going to be at minimum 3 lbs. per side. Discs should shave a few pounds per side as well. So we may be in the minus 6-7 lbs. range per front corner of the car...

So, the black paint weighs more. I guess I'll have to go with red!
(Still saving my pennies... it may take a while)