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So there is no way to use the EL header with the up and coming turbo kit?
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This is the entire reason why I'm not jumping on Borla's UEL header. JDL is doing some serious collector work and when you compare both collectors, I think the dyno results will speak for themselves.
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Holy shit I am excited.
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Kudos for doing your own CFD. It does however strike me as strange that work like this with collector/merge analysis hasn't already been done and isn't widely available. Very interested to see the final design.
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I'll do some more digging and see if I can find and link some relevant papers. The other difficulty with finding and interpreting other people's CFD results is that often time you are left to wonder how they ran the case they are presenting results for (grid quality, solver scheme, boundary conditions, etc.). In this case I wrote the solver and grid generator myself so I know EXACTLY what it is doing. |
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However this is more of just a visual presentation on stuff that's already established in fluid dynamics. Entrance loss, dealing with vena contracta, and exit loss dealing with turbulence and detachment.
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![]() I think anyone with any sort of fluid mechanics background will know that in a converging/diverging passage you are going to have issues with loss/separation, etc if the inlet Mach number is high enough. One could even go to any fluid mechanics text book and find pressure loss charts based on wall slope, area ratio and inlet Mach number (Sovran & Klomp comes to mind). I'm trying to go just a little bit further and figure out if the quantitative benefit that I see in my analysis is worth retooling fixtures and jigs to incorporate in the design. The other thing that is fractionally different here from the textbook case is that the flow upstream of the contraction is turning slightly (due to the merge). This has some impact on the thickness of the boundary layer upstream of the throat and it will also drive a vertical pressure gradient that could have a slight impact on flow migration toward the endwalls (affecting the separated region), but again, this is probably small potatoes. Thanks for the feedback
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Pulled the car apart to start the UEL and snapped a shot of the EL. Flex bellows are in route for those of you wondering about them
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One of the twin scroll BorgWarner EFR series turbos would be a blast on this car.
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The runners upstream of the collector certainly can affect the pressure and velocity profiles entering the collector but the acceleration upstream of the throat is so strong that it really suppresses these effects. Ive actually done a study similar to what you describe and the impact on performance was very small... Certainly not enough to drive me to a different collector design. Regarding the unsteady cfd... I dont have nearly enough computer resources to even attempt to simulate that (and in my personal experience most industrial cfd design work isnt even done unsteady). |
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