bang for buck intake or filter

[hunter3232792]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

On a dyno with the hood open maybe. When out driving the true CAI will have significantly lower intake temps, and more power as a result. The Injen and other short ram intakes suck in hot air that rises up from the headers and radiator and collects in the engine bay. Ask me how I know. I used to have an Airaid intake, and there's a big difference between it and my CAI.

you dont mind me asking which cai do you have?

[ATL BRZ]

Originally Posted by hunter3232792

you dont mind me asking which cai do you have?

I have the VMS: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24633

[hunter3232792]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

I have the VMS: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24633

and what are the gains from this and how does it feel when you drive between that and stock

[projectXTR]

Speaking of the Works drop in filter, does anybody know where I can get my hands one on of those in Europe ?

It's a pain in the ass to find suppliers here!

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by ottopilot

in for curiosity. Anybody has the K&N drop-in?

I have the K&N with the Zeta tube. That plus my exhaust...guess a tune could get me some HP.

[ATL BRZ]

Originally Posted by hunter3232792

and what are the gains from this and how does it feel when you drive between that and stock

~4-5whp over stock, the gains are all relative to your altitude and ambient air temps in real driving situations.

Here is my install and review: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=211

Video:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KtjhDBwS5k"]Subaru BRZ - Vigilant Motorsports Cold Air Intake - YouTube[/ame]

[FT-86 SpeedFactory]

Just some FYI and reading for you.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13245

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24884

There are plenty of reviews and tests out there on this forum regarding intakes. Here are more from @2forme

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18598

and @Drift-Office testing

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19413

Hope this helps!
-Yo

[2forme]

Originally Posted by FT-86 SpeedFactory

Just some FYI and reading for you.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13245

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24884

There are plenty of reviews and tests out there on this forum regarding intakes. Here are more from @2forme

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18598

and @Drift-Office using 2forme's car

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19413

Hope this helps!
-Yo

Drift office did NOT use my car. They did, however, dyno the Injen as a CAI instead of a short ram... So their Injen results aren't of real world performance in that regard.

[Drift-Office]

Originally Posted by 2forme

They did, however, dyno the Injen as a CAI instead of a short ram... So their Injen results aren't of real world performance in that regard.

Would you like me to show you the difference between a dyno run with the hood open and the hood closed? Is any dyno bay or dyno runs with anyone else's 'real world performance' in a 60 mile wind tunnel? Are all the other dyno runs from the years past and others been doing it all wrong as well?

Cheers!


Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

[Drift-Office]

And for further clarification, all the tests were done on my personal vehicle.

[ATL BRZ]

Originally Posted by Drift-Office

Would you like me to show you the difference between a dyno run with the hood open and the hood closed? Is any dyno bay or dyno runs with anyone else's 'real world performance' in a 60 mile wind tunnel? Are all the other dyno runs from the years past and others been doing it all wrong as well?

Cheers!


Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

IIRC you also left the stock intake snorkel in place for all your dynos of those short ram intakes, which is a restriction proven on a flow bench by Airaid during their intake development, with a 20% improvement in air flow after removing it. They also include removing the snorkel and resetting the ecu in their install instructions, which wasn't done for any of your tests. I never felt anything like a 14hp loss between the stock intake and the Airaid like you measured. The gains were positive, although slight in comparison to a true CAI. So in my opinion for that series of tests, yes, you were doing it wrong.

[Drift-Office]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

IIRC you also left the stock intake snorkel in place for all the dyno tests, which was also a restriction proven on a flow bench by Airaid during their intake development. They also include removing the snorkel and resetting the ecu in their install instructions, which wasn't done.

So miraculously, all the other intakes based on the same provisions and conditions performed better, and AirRaid's didn't so therefore there's an issue there. Nevermind that we did this on two different cars for each of the testing.

Okay. I'll go get another AirRaid intake and do a second round of testing... on a different car. Mine is now ECUTek equipped so I won't be able to have an apples to apples comparison. More on this later...

About resetting. We did a few other resets in tests after on the intakes there were still here, and after a few runs (since it's advisable to perform 4-5 pulls to get consistency,) we found no appreciable gain or loss.

Ultimately it's what you all want to believe. I only posted what my findings were. I still don't sell any of these products, I have nothing to gain, and just sharing what I thought would be interesting bits.

But hey, it's cool. I suppose it will never be 'right' with some as long as the hoods aren't closed and the dyno isn't in a temperature controlled laboratory grade environment which would make that one or two extra HP.

Regards,


Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

[Saab2Frs]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

I still bet the FA20Club.com one is cheaper

mine should be here any day now

I want to hear how this does. I just purchased a Perrin header back exhaust and was thinking I could talk my girlfriend into getting me the FA20Club intake as a birthday gift.

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by Saab2Frs

I want to hear how this does. I just purchased a Perrin header back exhaust and was thinking I could talk my girlfriend into getting me the FA20Club intake as a birthday gift.

If so she is a keeper

Full review soon!