Perrins new CAI vs Perrin drop in filter. Thoughts?

[FR-S Matt]

There's a good reason why FA20club and Visconti recommend the aFe Takeda....

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by NickFRS

Also it looks as if you guys didn't read what this post is about. This about Perrin products not other intakes. Please don't get off topic.

Get the Drop in Filter, waste of money $400+ for 4-5 WHP.

Drop in filter and tune FAR better value.

If you plan on doing Cams and heads later on, wait for the big Perrin intake. I don't see much benefit from the current intake if you are going I/T/E

[ChaChas345]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

Even more, it can be had for $275 and is the favorite among tuners to this date.

Chacha apparently has drank too much Perrin Kool Aid. The arguments in favor of this semi-Cai (or full with the Silicone Tube) are absurd.

Like I said before I Love Perrin parts, but it is what it is... and that is overpirced
@ChaChas345 AFE Takeda Intake for $273

Damn 273 for the Takeda intake for 3 whp reported by independent shops who dyno'd their intake. Wait... they also did dynos on drop in filters that got the same amount of power for 50 dollars. GASP I guess Takedas Intake must be a rip off also.

Perrins CAI does 5 whp for whatt they sell it for. I guess thats a rip off too. But atleast its more than what a damn drop in gets LOL. Imagine once you put a full exhaust and cams the gains will be! Seriously why dont u think before you speak for a second.

You obviously arent reading everything. You really think a drop in filter is gonna out perform a CAI on a heavily modded car? your an idiot.

EDIT: 450 dollars is with the silicone tube. That 5 whp is without the silicone tube and Perrins CAI cost 300 bucks. Do you not read anything LOL.

[FR-S Matt]

Originally Posted by ChaChas345

Read my thread instead of stating the same thing over and over again.

The more expensive CAI is to be used for people who also do other mods. You honestly think that a drop in filter will show similar results when a header back and other mods are thrown on the FR-S? Put headers on their too to complete the full exhaust do you really think a drop in is going to do better than a CAI that is breathing better?

It may get only 2 whp but it also will get way more when you get a full exhaust on the car. Perrin already stated that the silicone tube saw as high as 4 whp gained on some of their runs with just the silicone tube on the CAI alone. When comparing runs. Stop looking just those 2 parts and look at the bigger picture. They sell the drop in for people who dont mod their cars as heavily as others. The CAI is for people who mod their cars heavily. What do you not get?



275 for 3 whp.. what a Perrin drop in will get. Why would you get a Takeda where Drift Office or w/e did dynos with the Taked and got back to back runs with gains of 3 whp? So your saying its better?

Perrins half assed CAI does better and thats without the tubing. Go ahead spend 275 on Takedas intake for 3 whp when other members are basically saying why they shouldnt get the Perrin CAI over the drop in filter which is what we are talking about in the first place if you would bother to read lol.

Have you read anything in regards to tuning with the aFe at all? I'm guessing not because you're hellbent on some dyno where it got 3 whp, on ONE car. The two top tuners on this forum prefer the Takeda... that says a lot.

[FR-S Matt]

Originally Posted by ChaChas345

Damn 273 for the Takeda intake for 3 whp reported by independent shops who dyno'd their intake. Wait... they also did dynos on drop in filters that got the same amount of power for 50 dollars. GASP I guess Takedas Intake must be a rip off also.

Perrins CAI does 5 whp for whatt they sell it for. I guess thats a rip off too. But atleast its more than what a damn drop in gets LOL. Imagine once you put a full exhaust and cams the gains will be! Seriously why dont u think before you speak for a second.

You obviously arent reading everything. You really think a drop in filter is gonna out perform a CAI on a heavily modded car? your an idiot.

EDIT: 450 dollars is with the silicone tube. That 5 whp is without the silicone tube and Perrins CAI cost 300 bucks. Do you not read anything LOL.

"Your an idiot" Um, lol? Your entire argument just became irrelevant. Sportsguy is very knowledgeable across many aspects of this car. Like he said, lay off the Perrin koolaid for a bit and do some real comparisons.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by ChaChas345

your an idiot.

You may want to reconsider your manners and be civilized. No need for this. You would not be the first one banned for similar stuff.

Oh, and its actually you're not your... But I didn't expect more...

@FR-S Matt No one is getting him off of it. Just let it be..... Sometimes its just like that.

[ChaChas345]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

Have you read anything in regards to tuning with the aFe at all? I'm guessing not because you're hellbent on some dyno where it got 3 whp, on ONE car. The two top tuners on this forum prefer the Takeda... that says a lot.

So who says you cant run the Perrin with a tune? You act as if the the AFE Takeda is the only intake that can be tuned. A true CAI will outperform any short ram style intake. Thats common sense. What do you think the Perrin Intake will do with a tune?

Yet Drift offices dynos were done back to back on test cars also. I guess that doesnt mean anything does it?
You havent even given Perrins CAI more than a week of release and your already putting it down. Just goes to show what a homer you are.

[FR-S Matt]

Originally Posted by ChaChas345

So who says you cant run the Perrin with a tune? You act as if the the AFE Takeda is the only intake that can be tuned. A true CAI will outperform any short ram style intake. Thats common sense. What do you think the Perrin Intake will do with a tune?

Yet Drift offices dynos were done back to back on test cars also. I guess that doesnt mean anything does it?

Yes, you can tune both intakes, but I highly doubt the Perrin will be any different once tuned and you'll realize you wasted $150 for a Perrin logo.

The Perrin pulls from a tube and a filter from the front bumper. The Takeda pulls the same air from the front bumper without the extra extension, and is protected well from heat in the engine bay just like the Perrin. There's nothing innovative about this intake that makes it $150 more than most of the intakes on the same level. This is the whole reason why people prefer a drop in filter in the stock box along with a silicon tube. It's basically an inexpensive Perrin intake with that setup. I chose to not go that route because I like the way the Takeda looks for the full system.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by ChaChas345

Read my thread instead of stating the same thing over and over again.

The more expensive CAI is to be used for people who also do other mods. You honestly think that a drop in filter will show similar results when a header back and other mods are thrown on the FR-S? Put headers on their too to complete the full exhaust do you really think a drop in is going to do better than a CAI that is breathing better?

It may get only 2 whp but it also will get way more when you get a full exhaust on the car. Perrin already stated that the silicone tube saw as high as 4 whp gained on some of their runs with just the silicone tube on the CAI alone. When comparing runs. Stop looking just those 2 parts and look at the bigger picture. They sell the drop in for people who dont mod their cars as heavily as others. The CAI is for people who mod their cars heavily. What do you not get?

I get that there doesn't seem to be any dyno charts that support your claim. Nor do you have an understanding that independently dyno'd parts don't automatically 'stack'. Nor do people like to have to buy other parts just to make ones they've already bought work.

I, and a lot of others here I bet, would love to see Perrin dyno (or better yet, an independent dyno) a complete, tuned power package of all their parts. See if they can break 200whp. Would be cool.

But that CAI on it own doesn't look like a value compared to their drop-in filter.

[ChaChas345]

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt

"Your an idiot" Um, lol? Your entire argument just became irrelevant. Sportsguy is very knowledgeable across many aspects of this car. Like he said, lay off the Perrin koolaid for a bit and do some real comparisons.

LOL. How about you read before you go saying things I already answered your thread to in my previous posts.

Everyone has their prefences. People bash Perrins CAI and it hasnt even been out for longer than a week. It gets 5 whp for just the CAI. Not with the tubing that cost 140 dollars more. Yet it costs only a little more for the CAI itself than the Takeda. I guess just cause I call you an idiot for not reading my posts where I already answered what you said about how the Perrin intake is over priced maybe you would see that, that my 2 cents dont mean shit huh?

But you cant change people who have already made up their minds on something that hasnt been out for longer than a day LOL. Saying Perrins CAI gets only 5 whp for 450 dollars? WHen has anyone even said that in this thread? FYI Perrins gets 5 whp for 300. Not 450. No one cares if the respected tuners use AFE. If they do good for them. They arent you and this intake hasnt been out for longer than a day.

You do know the AFE takeda has been out for months while this just came out publicly for sale right? How do you know that the respected tuners might get this instead since the AFE was what was available months ago and the best they could get.

FYI this has a ton of R&D done on it a lot of respected tuners also have this already who were testing it. Give it a little more time and you can do a better comparison. Otherwise shut it because thats all your doing is already giving it negative reviews when no one has used it except for testers.

[FR-S Matt]

Originally Posted by ChaChas345

LOL. How about you read before you go saying things I already answered your thread to in my previous posts.

Everyone has their prefences. People bash Perrins CAI and it hasnt even been out for longer than a week. It gets 5 whp for just the CAI. Not with the tubing that cost 140 dollars more. Yet it costs only a little more for the CAI itself than the Takeda. I guess just cause I call you an idiot for not reading my posts where I already answered what you said about how the Perrin intake is over priced maybe you would see that, that my 2 cents dont mean shit huh?

But you cant change people who have already made up their minds on something that hasnt been out for longer than a day LOL. Saying Perrins CAI gets only 5 whp for 450 dollars? WHen has anyone even said that in this thread? FYI Perrins gets 5 whp for 300. Not 450. No one cares if the respected tuners use AFE. If they do good for them. They arent you and this intake hasnt been out for longer than a day.

You do know the AFE takeda has been out for months while this just came out publicly for sale right? How do you know that the respected tuners might get this instead since the AFE was what was available months ago and the best they could get.

FYI this has a ton of R&D done on it a lot of respected tuners also have this already who were testing it. Give it a little more time and you can do a better comparison. Otherwise shut it because thats all your doing is already giving it negative reviews when no one has used it except for testers.

If you look back at anything I said negative about the Perrin, it has only been price. I have not questioned one thing about their performance because they do make quality parts. I simply just think this part is overpriced compared to their other products and versus what else is available on the market.

[ChaChas345]

btw This is no way in any shape or form bashing those people who have an AFE takeda. If you have it good for you but people who are so quick to judge something that hasnt even been around that long yet really need to get off their high horses. I Was simply just saying that this is better than the AFE takeda. Then you have randoms who come in and start posting saying oh the tuned Takeda is better. Hello? who says the Takeda is the only intake that can be used with a tune. The people who are bashing the CAI by Perrin that hasnt been released for that long need to stfu because honestly more people will have a product thats been around for months,

The Takeda has been on the market longer and so obviously more people are going to own it. Give the Perrin CAI some time and I am sure it will perform just as well if not better. FYI a drop in is a better value than any intake on the market. But anyone who is going to be planning to mod their car that isnt the way to go. If you think that I feel sorry for you. It just goes to show how dumb the couple of posters who are saying the Perrin CAI is only getting 5 whp for 440 dollars when it is getting 5 whp for 300. And probably a little more with the silicone tube.

edit

The perrin costs BARELY any more than the Takeda which got 3 whp untuned dyno;d by drift office. Which is what the drop ins get on a dyno. While the Perrin is getting 5 whp untuned for a little more. If both were tuned I am pretty sure jsut by looking at the statistics of the untuned dynos you can guess who will have more. You have a tuned CAI coming out by Perrin also that has already been posted that will have gains of 10-15 whp. So that is already what they have released based on a tuned intake they will be coming out with. So if you want to compared tuned intakes then go comparing the Takeda with the intake Perrin will be releasing.

I am done here. No point in arguing with people who dont even bother reading the other sides argument and so quick to point out things that are null. FYI both intakes are a less of a value than a drop in but that is not the point. Once you start heavily modding your car the drop in wont perform any better than the CAI and good chance it will based on what vendors have tested.

[OrbitalEllipses]

ITT: ChaChas takes up gmookher's mantle.

[NickFRS]

You guys are way off topic. Go make a post to argue Perrin about other brands. That's not what tho is about. Also a intake won't help an exhaust make more power so stop claiming that.... This is simply perrin drop in filter vs Perrin cai.