Found a new coilover option from Tein

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

@CSG Mike how do you think these would work for me? Daily driving only, just looking for increased performance and a little more drop than my h techs provide.

While Tein makes products for every budget, I believe these are made to compete with other cheap coilovers on the market, albeit, with a better known brand name, and I can't believe these to be any better than the taiwanese/chinese made coilovers. I'm actually surprised it's priced to be competitive with those; Tein's overhead and costs are higher.

I can't vouch for a product that I wouldn't buy myself or haven't tested.

And yes, we're Tein sponsored, but I say it how it is.

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

While Tein makes products for every budget, I believe these are made to compete with other cheap coilovers on the market, albeit, with a better known brand name, and I can't believe these to be any better than the taiwanese/chinese made coilovers. I'm actually surprised it's priced to be competitive with those; Tein's overhead and costs are higher.

I can't vouch for a product that I wouldn't buy myself or haven't tested.

And yes, we're Tein sponsored, but I say it how it is.

That's why I asked you I appreciate the honesty, the street advanced may be a little more worthy of my money. I'm between a tein product or the ground control street system. Also waiting to hear about the eibach and bilstein options.

[fatoni]

it continues to blow my mind that people will buy budget suspension on brand new cars. i get it when you buy a 2500 dollar miata but you most likely spent 25+k on a car. an extra grand or so will go such a long way and in the over all scheme of things (30,000-40,000 in budget) its almost negligible. tein monoflex or kw v3 seem like the least amount of aftermarket suspension that this car deserves considering how sharp it rolls off the line.

if you want to get low just buy springs. if you want to go faster, buy faster.

[JoeBoxer]

Already have springs, I bought some with a mild drop hoping I wouldn't have to get anything for camber correction but the car was off a degree from left to right in the rear so I had to buy lca's anyways. If I had know that I could have went with a different spring option but when I bought these I knew I would be upgrading when there were more options available.

I don't need all the adjustment that kw's offer, they are a great coilover and I get them for a good price but just because these are under $1k doesn't automatically mean they are terrible. My car might see the track once a year since there isn't one in my state, these things might be great for a DD but until somebody tests them out we will never know. I still think they will be better than the bc/ksport/Megan type stuff.

[gabeg86]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

I don't need all the adjustment that kw's offer, they are a great coilover and I get them for a good price but just because these are under $1k doesn't automatically mean they are terrible. My car might see the track once a year since there isn't one in my state, these things might be great for a DD but until somebody tests them out we will never know. I still think they will be better than the bc/ksport/Megan type stuff.

any updates? i'm in the same boat. no track here so these are just for DD and for greater reliability over lowering springs and stock struts. i may be willing to be a guinea pig for these. the basics had a good rep in the rsx world and these are supposed to be upgrades over those. could you pm me pricing and availability info?

[JoeBoxer]

Originally Posted by gabeg86

any updates? i'm in the same boat. no track here so these are just for DD and for greater reliability over lowering springs and stock struts. i may be willing to be a guinea pig for these. the basics had a good rep in the rsx world and these are supposed to be upgrades over those. could you pm me pricing and availability info?

Sent you a pm, if i ever get to buy anything else for my car this is what i'll be getting also just going to be quite a while until i get in better financial shape. TEIN's other coilovers for the 86 have all been well reviewed, the SRC and Street Advance seem to be excellent i have no reason to believe these won't be too for their desired customer. They aren't intended for the hardcore track guys but for a daily driver i think they should not be overlooked just because of their price.

[gabeg86]

Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

Sent you a pm, if i ever get to buy anything else for my car this is what i'll be getting also just going to be quite a while until i get in better financial shape. TEIN's other coilovers for the 86 have all been well reviewed, the SRC and Street Advance seem to be excellent i have no reason to believe these won't be too for their desired customer. They aren't intended for the hardcore track guys but for a daily driver i think they should not be overlooked just because of their price.

exactly! thank you. pm'd back. look forward to doing business in the very near future

[JoeBoxer]

Nice avatar pic Gabe!

[Alliedforces86]

I've been contemplating getting the Tein Basics for a little now. Though I do tracks days when I can, but I mostly drive on the street. I'm a firm believer that for a street going car coils are VERY unnecessary. But what draws me to these Teins is that they're none adjustable, which most people don't need, they're rebuildable, and it's a product from a quality company. I'm currently on stock struts and Eibachs sport line springs, but this setup perform surprisingly well at my last track event. I want the Teins because they shouldn't be as harsh for street use as some of the competitors in the price range, and in my eyes, they're pretty much just a short stroke suspension system. And if my stock struts and lowering springs can hold up to a hard weekend of running Sonoma Raceway then I'm sure these Teins would do just fine.

Tein does say that the Basics are for those that are into the "stanced" scene. Since most aggressive wheel setups require you to run coils. So I'd say Tein has them for people that don't need track worthy coils, but need coils to run the wheels and lower height that's so popular these days.

[King Tut]

My only expereicne with the Tein Basics was on my Honda Civic EG hatch. I previously had Neuspeed Race Springs and some shock which was super slow and super stiff. I installed the Tein Basics and the ride was a ton softer and I actually dragged my APEXi N1 exhaust more often because of the softness. The difference in ride was night and day and they made for a much more comfortable daily driver. I would say these are for those that want to lower their car while maintaining a very soft and comfortable drive.

[Alliedforces86]

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[bigjake]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

I went for a ride a while ago on Tein Basics on an STI. The valving was SOFT...and generally comfortable for most roads. However, compression travel was lacking big time, so even medium sized bumps were a little too sharp and very noticeable IMO. For performance they were soft. I'm not sure where I'd put them compared to other low end coilovers like BC/Megan/etc since it's been a little while. For a similar price I'd certainly prefer Koni inserts with good springs for performance but you had to know I'd say that.

- Andrew

One of the HPDE guys from Kansas city noticed a huge improvement switching from koni yellows and HR race springs to a set of BC BRs with the swift spring upgrade on his e46 sedan. 4 seconds quicker as well. So I would recommend BC.