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Kage · 10-16-2011, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Leeky

This car has a Toyota badge on the boot lid....

And i think the Scion version will be idential to the Toyota but just with a different badge.

^ this is the truth

Deslock · 10-16-2011, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Akai

Thanks for the great photos of the race. From http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2011/10...-personal.html, skip to photo 29, does it look like the car's redline at 7500 ish??

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Originally Posted by switchlanez

^Yup, looks like 7400 to be exact.

:P

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=243

S13Kuro · 10-16-2011, 08:20 AM

Yeah but these proto test cars are always sporting mindf&^%s to throw us off, so the Toy badge mightn't mean much. Either way I hope it looks more like the concepts we've seen than this one here honestly.

Michel · 10-16-2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RRnold

Michel, you mentioned 200ps and I noticed that they are running race gas. There are no engine mods in this class correct? I wonder if they did some addition mapping in which might lower the oem HP.

I don't know if they use race gas, I don't see a reason why they should. Most cars use octane98 which is 'premium' here in Europe. Power output has to be within 5% of OEM specs.

balance · 10-16-2011, 08:51 AM

Hello to all, my first post here!

To the OP: Thank you for the update!

The release of this car will be very exciting! Last time I had this kinda butterfly was the introduction of mistu evo series into the US. Honestly, I think that there is nothing to dislike about this car from an enthsiast's views; affordable, lightweight, low CoG, decent power, and reliable!

I just hope I can buy one in the future!

JDMluv · 10-16-2011, 09:08 AM

there is still no news about launching this car in the middle east!!

am sure they wont sell it in the middle east as Daihatsu!!

i asked our local dealer, and they know nothing!! i asked one of the sales men, and i ended up explaining to him about the car! and educate him!!

Levi · 10-16-2011, 09:49 AM

The car is way too silent, just as that ugly Peugeot RCZ. The car needs more power. I mean, a Lotus does not have alot of power, but it is not really slow on straight line.

By the way, I am tired of Toyota vs. Scio. They will be exactly the same, only badges, which have exactl ythe same shape and size, will change.

suprachica79 · 10-16-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Levi

By the way, I am tired of Toyota vs. Scio. They will be exactly the same, only badges, which have exactl ythe same shape and size, will change.

I'm right there with ya. It's been said over and over that they will be exactly the same with the only difference being the badges.

ichitaka05 · 10-16-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by suprachica79

I'm right there with ya. It's been said over and over that they will be exactly the same with the only difference being the badges.

That's not 100% sure yet... Toyota love to screw US ppl. Good example, IS300. There are a tons of different stuff, but I gonna just talk bout one. Gauge.

Here's USDM IS300 gauge

Now JDM gauge

I prefer JDM ver over USDM ver...

SUB-FT86 · 10-16-2011, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi

The car is way too silent, just as that ugly Peugeot RCZ. The car needs more power. I mean, a Lotus does not have alot of power, but it is not really slow on straight line.

By the way, I am tired of Toyota vs. Scio. They will be exactly the same, only badges, which have exactl ythe same shape and size, will change.

That's because Lotus will never put a weak power to weight ratio in there cars. The Elise has a 190hp engine in a 1,975 lb car.

Kiwi · 10-16-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

That's not 100% sure yet... Toyota love to screw US ppl. Good example, IS300. There are a tons of different stuff, but I gonna just talk bout one. Gauge.

Here's USDM IS300 gauge

Now JDM gauge

I prefer JDM ver over USDM ver...

Even the oil temp is lost in the USDM gauge.

Matador · 10-16-2011, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michel

I don't know if they use race gas, I don't see a reason why they should. Most cars use octane98 which is 'premium' here in Europe. Power output has to be within 5% of OEM specs.

Don't think I said thanks for the race report and pics. Damn good Job of you!

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Originally Posted by JDMlove

there is still no news about launching this car in the middle east!!

am sure they wont sell it in the middle east as Daihatsu!!

i asked our local dealer, and they know nothing!! i asked one of the sales men, and i ended up explaining to him about the car! and educate him!!

Middle east got the Scion tC as the Toyota Zelas no? Pretty sure It'll be a Toyota.

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Originally Posted by Scion FRS

"Not good enough" How could you be happy, having waited so long, all those R&D but still beaten by S2000? Thats bullshit

Get a fucking grip man. The car is there for testing. Also, in case you didn't realize, the S2000 is a 240hp, $30k car when it was still on sale.

SUB-FT86 · 10-16-2011, 01:48 PM

What people need to realize is when it comes to Japanese sports cars with a high revving, 4 banger and under 30k tag it will always be more about handling than power. Honda and Toyota followed this tradition for decades and they will never change that while other makes will continue to improve in both straight line performance and handling.

nos145 · 10-16-2011, 03:16 PM

Well you are all focused on the performance part of the car, and i totally respect and dig that cuz that's the part that really matters. BUT, lets take a minute to look at the body modifications on this car from the previous prototypes that were presented to the public at events.
The back: this was totally butchered.... The new lights make it look like it has down syndrome, furthermore the modifications to the trunk are just fugly. it looks like they have already made it for north american plates.
The side: it looks like they extended the trunk and the whole ass of the car a bit on the LVN model, the front was also extended a bit more (most likely to comply with the front impact rules in some countries in respect to pedestrians).
The front: surprisingly untouched but still looks worse than the prototype.

I would personally dump extra 2-3k if i could get a car that looks like the Prototype II, and i think that majority of the general public would do the same thing.

Please note that i am not saying that i would chose the body over performance, i am just saying that the sales from a good looking sports car would be MUCH higher in today's market.

so when it comes down to marketing and final production vehicles i hope Toyota makes the right decisions, cuz atm its looking pretty shitty.

10-16-2011, 08:51 AM	#61
balance Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 86 & Picanto Location: soul city Posts: 87 Thanks: 2 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This car will be great! Hello to all, my first post here! To the OP: Thank you for the update! The release of this car will be very exciting! Last time I had this kinda butterfly was the introduction of mistu evo series into the US. Honestly, I think that there is nothing to dislike about this car from an enthsiast's views; affordable, lightweight, low CoG, decent power, and reliable! I just hope I can buy one in the future!

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S13Kuro Will it drift? Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Nissan Silvia S13 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yeah but these proto test cars are always sporting mindf&^%s to throw us off, so the Toy badge mightn't mean much. Either way I hope it looks more like the concepts we've seen than this one here honestly.

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JDMluv Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 07 M35X - 07 HR 350z Location: Bahrain Posts: 72 Thanks: 1 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	there is still no news about launching this car in the middle east!! am sure they wont sell it in the middle east as Daihatsu!! i asked our local dealer, and they know nothing!! i asked one of the sales men, and i ended up explaining to him about the car! and educate him!!

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Levi Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: Toyota Location: Germany Posts: 1,202 Thanks: 134 Thanked 138 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The car is way too silent, just as that ugly Peugeot RCZ. The car needs more power. I mean, a Lotus does not have alot of power, but it is not really slow on straight line. By the way, I am tired of Toyota vs. Scio. They will be exactly the same, only badges, which have exactl ythe same shape and size, will change.

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SUB-FT86 86 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Drives: 2013 Toyota 86 2.0T (Asphalt) Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 3,129 Thanks: 126 Thanked 527 Times in 296 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	What people need to realize is when it comes to Japanese sports cars with a high revving, 4 banger and under 30k tag it will always be more about handling than power. Honda and Toyota followed this tradition for decades and they will never change that while other makes will continue to improve in both straight line performance and handling.

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nos145 Cognite Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 2013 Whiteout FRS Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 245 Thanks: 121 Thanked 57 Times in 52 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Well you are all focused on the performance part of the car, and i totally respect and dig that cuz that's the part that really matters. BUT, lets take a minute to look at the body modifications on this car from the previous prototypes that were presented to the public at events. The back: this was totally butchered.... The new lights make it look like it has down syndrome, furthermore the modifications to the trunk are just fugly. it looks like they have already made it for north american plates. The side: it looks like they extended the trunk and the whole ass of the car a bit on the LVN model, the front was also extended a bit more (most likely to comply with the front impact rules in some countries in respect to pedestrians). The front: surprisingly untouched but still looks worse than the prototype. I would personally dump extra 2-3k if i could get a car that looks like the Prototype II, and i think that majority of the general public would do the same thing. Please note that i am not saying that i would chose the body over performance, i am just saying that the sales from a good looking sports car would be MUCH higher in today's market. so when it comes down to marketing and final production vehicles i hope Toyota makes the right decisions, cuz atm its looking pretty shitty.

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