follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum - FT86CLUB > Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 > Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum

Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum The place to start for the Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 | GT86


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-08-2010, 11:52 AM   #1
Hachiroku
Administrator
 
Hachiroku's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Drives: Boxster 986
Location: Tristate
Posts: 1,145
Thanks: 35
Thanked 1,933 Times in 331 Posts
Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 5 Thread(s)
Arrow Report: Baby Toyota FT-86 also in the works

According to R&T, Toyota is currently working on a "baby FT-86" sports coupe to slot in under the Toyota FT-86. The baby FT-86 is expected to be priced at $5000 less than the FT-86, which makes some sense since it's been recently reported that the FT-86 will come to market at a price tag slightly higher than Toyota's original $20,000 target.

Hence, the baby FT-86 sports car will fill Toyota's sub-$20k sports car slot. The rumor is that the car will measure 150 inches overall length and be powered by Toyota's 1.5L inline 4-cylinder 3SZ-VE engine, good for 109bhp. The drivetrain will feature a front engine and rear wheel drive. Rumored debut date is 2012.
Hachiroku is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2010, 12:06 PM   #2
Ryuu0u
(=^・ェ・^=)
 
Ryuu0u's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Drives: 2013 FRS, '08 GSXR 600
Location: Spring, TX
Posts: 691
Thanks: 28
Thanked 254 Times in 108 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Kinda sounds like scion territory maybe?
Ryuu0u is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2010, 12:09 PM   #3
JasonWin
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Drives: 2000 Corolla, 1985 Toyota Pickup
Location: PEI, Canada
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Hopefully this will keep things open for toyota to add some extra Horsepower to the big brother since they won't have to be quite so price conscious for that model.
JasonWin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2010, 12:28 PM   #4
Dark
Elite Padawan
 
Dark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Drives: '15 WRX, 15 GLA250, and 2 feet
Location: Shoreline, WA
Posts: 3,498
Thanks: 197
Thanked 250 Times in 159 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Hmm interesting, but I dun think they need it. They should revive the big bro Supra instead of making any smaller sport car than FT-86. Just give inline 6 or Boxer 6 to new Supra, world will be in peace for awhile.
Dark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2010, 01:10 PM   #5
mrtodd
Techmology.
 
mrtodd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Drives: Scrapped project EH2
Location: Teh Mountains
Posts: 137
Thanks: 40
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I don't know about you guys, but I'm a little hesitant to believe everything Road & Track has to say.. They've had a history of providing incorrect information on upcoming models *ahem, 370z* and I think it's safe to say that they're publishing similar misleading info on this subject as well.

Just a small example, take a look at this quote from a related article...
"From what we can learn from Gran Turismo, the car’s engine will redline at 8500 rpm, meaning this thing will be a screamer. It’ll hit 61 mph (100 km./h) in 6.1 seconds. So whatever this engine is (we suspect it’s a naturally-aspirated inline-4 with VVT-i), it’s pumping out at least 250 bhp."

Those numbers look appealing, until you hit the end. Inline-4??? Dude, EVERYBODY knows that it will be H-4 powered! If R&T can't even get the simple details down, how can we really trust them on something big like this?

In all reality, this could just mean that the FT86 is going to come in different engine flavors, with the lowly base model coming out at just under 20k. Who knows for sure, but IMHO Road & Track's info should be taken with a hefty grain of salt.

Last edited by mrtodd; 05-08-2010 at 01:47 PM.
mrtodd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2010, 01:43 PM   #6
EyeZer0
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Drives: 2011 Honda Fit Sport
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 53
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Anybody know the last time a RWD car was priced at $15-18k? I surely don't... Correct if I'm wrong but even if this rumor was true I'm sure it would be a FWD and Toyota would never produce it in fear of stealing sales away from the Scion TC.
EyeZer0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2010, 04:32 PM   #7
VenomRush
Thee O-ri-gi-na-tor
 
VenomRush's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Drives: 2013 FR-S
Location: So Cal
Posts: 948
Thanks: 59
Thanked 80 Times in 46 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by EyeZer0 View Post
Anybody know the last time a RWD car was priced at $15-18k? I surely don't... Correct if I'm wrong but even if this rumor was true I'm sure it would be a FWD and Toyota would never produce it in fear of stealing sales away from the Scion TC.
true that
VenomRush is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2010, 04:53 PM   #8
Midship Runabout
formerly Dixie Normous
 
Midship Runabout's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Drives: The ladies wild!
Location: ())_)CRAYOLA)_))>
Posts: 996
Thanks: 1
Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Hopefully 2-seater miata competitor.
Midship Runabout is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2010, 04:55 PM   #9
Franisco
Senior Member
 
Franisco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Drives: D31a
Location: 360
Posts: 502
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Has to be bogus. I completely agree with Dark here, they need to go the other way. New supra please
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by White Comet View Post
No one's buying a Yaris to wind the piss out of it and possibly slam into a mountainside pretending they're the ultimate Tofu delivery person.
Franisco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2010, 05:19 PM   #10
A-Spike
Member
 
A-Spike's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Drives: BMX bike :P
Location: Commie E.U.
Posts: 66
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by EyeZer0 View Post
Anybody know the last time a RWD car was priced at $15-18k? I surely don't... Correct if I'm wrong but even if this rumor was true I'm sure it would be a FWD and Toyota would never produce it in fear of stealing sales away from the Scion TC.
Yes, but Motor Trend says that it will be a two door version of the Toyota Aygo GRMN, witch may keep down the price.
Also Toyota might have seen the lack of a really cheap RWD sports car, and wants to kick the asses of the new Honda CR-Z and upcoming Hyundai Veloster, with a small and cheap RWD coupe witch will handle like a dream.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...ive/index.html

Quote:
Hmm interesting, but I dun think they need it. They should revive the big bro Supra instead of making any smaller sport car than FT-86. Just give inline 6 or Boxer 6 to new Supra, world will be in peace for awhile.
Everybody wants to see a new Supra on the road, but Toyota needs to learn how to walk again before they can start running, a baby FT-86 will be cheap enough for the 20 year olds, and will give the freedom to the FT-86 to be more powerful and maybe to get a V6 witch will make it more competitive against cars like the Audi TT, Hyundai Gen. Coupe, Mustang and the next generation Camaro witch will be smaller, lighter and faster. The Supra nameplate is something special, and a future Supra needs to be good enough to challenge cars like the Chevy Corvette, Porsche 911 and Nissan GT-R .
A-Spike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2010, 07:56 PM   #11
Matador
hashiryu
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Drives: Mk4 Supra
Location: Probably mucking around in an engine bay
Posts: 2,567
Thanks: 18
Thanked 37 Times in 20 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by EyeZer0 View Post
Anybody know the last time a RWD car was priced at $15-18k? I surely don't... Correct if I'm wrong but even if this rumor was true I'm sure it would be a FWD and Toyota would never produce it in fear of stealing sales away from the Scion TC.




Quote:
Originally Posted by mrtodd View Post
I don't know about you guys, but I'm a little hesitant to believe everything Road & Track has to say.. They've had a history of providing incorrect information on upcoming models *ahem, 370z* and I think it's safe to say that they're publishing similar misleading info on this subject as well.

***snip***

In all reality, this could just mean that the FT86 is going to come in different engine flavors, with the lowly base model coming out at just under 20k. Who knows for sure, but IMHO Road & Track's info should be taken with a hefty grain of salt.
^What he said.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark View Post
Hmm interesting, but I dun think they need it. They should revive the big bro Supra instead of making any smaller sport car than FT-86.
While I agree with this....

Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Spike View Post
Everybody wants to see a new Supra on the road, but Toyota needs to learn how to walk again before they can start running, a baby FT-86 will be cheap enough for the 20 year olds, and will give the freedom to the FT-86 to be more powerful and maybe to get a V6 witch will make it more competitive against cars like the Audi TT, Hyundai Gen. Coupe, Mustang and the next generation Camaro witch will be smaller, lighter and faster. The Supra nameplate is something special, and a future Supra needs to be good enough to challenge cars like the Chevy Corvette, Porsche 911 and Nissan GT-R .
I think this sums up my thoughts pretty nicely. Except that the FT does not need a V6 to compete with the Gen coupe (and has no place trying to compete with the Audi TT).
Matador is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2010, 09:04 PM   #12
Franisco
Senior Member
 
Franisco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Drives: D31a
Location: 360
Posts: 502
Thanks: 2
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 View Post
Except that the FT does not need a V6 to compete with the Gen coupe (and has no place trying to compete with the Audi TT).
Yup. Also I really hope they don't try to compete with all of those muscle cars; Would really ruin it
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by White Comet View Post
No one's buying a Yaris to wind the piss out of it and possibly slam into a mountainside pretending they're the ultimate Tofu delivery person.
Franisco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2010, 09:20 PM   #13
Dark
Elite Padawan
 
Dark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Drives: '15 WRX, 15 GLA250, and 2 feet
Location: Shoreline, WA
Posts: 3,498
Thanks: 197
Thanked 250 Times in 159 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Franisco View Post
Yup. Also I really hope they don't try to compete with all of those muscle cars; Would really ruin it
If the rumor about RX-7 is true, FT-86 will compete with RX-7. There is will a small possible chance that Nissan may be bringing back the Silvia. If what I said become true, it's like we're heading back to early 90s again.
Dark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2010, 11:27 PM   #14
Jordo!
Enjoy it, destroy it.
 
Jordo!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Drives: Datsun Racing Hen
Location: Blank Generation
Posts: 820
Thanks: 6
Thanked 61 Times in 48 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Hmm. Until I see a concept I'm taking a "wait and see" approach to this one.
Jordo! is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Report: Cadillac Converj production program killed vh_supra26 Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 6 09-07-2012 12:23 PM
Report: No AWD For Subaru version of FT-86! Hachiroku BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 105 05-10-2011 01:02 AM
Report: Toyota FT-86 will move up in price and age demographic ft86cbx Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 201 06-02-2010 03:36 AM
Report: Toyota chooses alternative Toyota FT-86 design (by Calty studio)! Nemesis Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 128 02-19-2010 11:36 AM
New info on Toyota 'Gs' performance division in the works Axel Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 7 02-09-2010 02:44 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:36 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2021 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.