Alignment needed after front camber bolt install?

[mla163]

The point of camber bolts is to add camber. Yes, you want an alignment.

[mact]

You do NOT need an alignment if you are simply replacing 2 of the bolts with the camber bolts.

There are 2 shock bolts per side, and the camber bolts only replace 1 per side, so if you leave one untouched on each side, the alignment doesn't change.

[AZP Installs]

Originally Posted by celica73

No, you will set it to the maximum you can get on each side. Yall are making this a lot harder than you have to. Assuming the car hasn't been crashed already, it will be pretty square, so doing the same thing on each side will give results that are adequate.

If it makes you feel better, pay $80 for an alignment, maybe more if you actually want a custom alignment. I'll laugh when they use those camber bolts to give exactly 0 degrees on each side, rather than the most you can get.

If the car had double a-arms up front, with 4 adjusters per side, I'd be all about going to a shop for an alignment. There are too many variables to do it easily at home, but on these cars, there isn't enough to adjust to make that worth while.

Anything you do by eye is not going to yield a good result. I'm sorry but this is just an ignorant way to go about things. Yes you can eyeball it as a temporary setup but long-term you want a real alignment anytime you touch the camber bolts.

Ugh. The ignorance that abounds on these forums amazes me sometimes.

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[Calidrifter]

It does not matter if you change 1 bolt per side. You will STILL need to get a proper alignment.

[mact]

Originally Posted by Calidrifter

It does not matter if you change 1 bolt per side. You will STILL need to get a proper alignment.

You are 100% wrong.

[Calidrifter]

I'm not saying it will be out of spec.

I think we need more information before this thread gets out of hand.
@ayau what are you trying to get out of this setup? Track, street or stance?

Once that's answered a better answer can be given.

[ayau]

Originally Posted by Calidrifter

I'm not saying it will be out of spec.

I think we need more information before this thread gets out of hand.
@ayau what are you trying to get out of this setup? Track, street or stance?

Once that's answered a better answer can be given.

mild track/autox. i just want to give the front a little more camber to avoid prematurely wearing out the tires and also adding extra grip when cornering.

in the future, i may go with some coilovers and the camber bolts will help dial in the exact camber settings.

[Calidrifter]

Ok, so as stated it shouldn't be out of spec with just the 2 upper bolts being replaced.

When do you think you will get the suspension? If its sooner rather than later wait until then to dial it in.

If its going to be over a year than just get the alignment done now for piece of mind. Hell if the shop is a quality shop they will let you know if you need it done prior to touching anything on the car as they will do a baseline.

[ayau]

Originally Posted by Calidrifter

Ok, so as stated it shouldn't be out of spec with just the 2 upper bolts being replaced.

When do you think you will get the suspension? If its sooner rather than later wait until then to dial it in.

If its going to be over a year than just get the alignment done now for piece of mind. Hell if the shop is a quality shop they will let you know if you need it done prior to touching anything on the car as they will do a baseline.

i still need some sticky tires as i'm currently running on oem tires with aftermarket rims. the coilovers will largely depend on what's available. there aren't a lot of options right now, and everything seems overpriced. i suppose that's the cost of being an early adopter.

[AZP Installs]

The alignment isn't related to your tires or rims, so you can go ahead and get that alignment. Once camber bolts are remove/reinstalled or installed for the first time you absolutely will need to get an alignment. Unless you are planning to upgrade your suspension within a month or 2 then get the alignment done to prevent premature wear and unsafe handling.

Will you be installing the bolts yourself or having a shop do it?

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[ayau]

Originally Posted by AZP Installs

The alignment isn't related to your tires or rims, so you can go ahead and get that alignment. Once camber bolts are remove/reinstalled or installed for the first time you absolutely will need to get an alignment. Unless you are planning to upgrade your suspension within a month or 2 then get the alignment done to prevent premature wear and unsafe handling.

Will you be installing the bolts yourself or having a shop do it?

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i will be having the shop install it. i figured it's not that much extra work to slot a bolt through.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by ayau

i still need some sticky tires as i'm currently running on oem tires with aftermarket rims. the coilovers will largely depend on what's available. there aren't a lot of options right now, and everything seems overpriced. i suppose that's the cost of being an early adopter.

Koni inserts and springs will probably work better for you. If you call TurnInConcepts they might even cut your stock damper bodies and insert the Konis for you, for a fee.

[Calidrifter]

Is your upgrade path:

Bolts-Tires-Suspension?

Either way I would get an alignment once you change the tires, as the stock will be way more forgiving than the stickier ones as far as wear is concerned.

[ayau]

Originally Posted by Calidrifter

Ok so the stock tires should last a while.

Is your upgrade path:

Bolts-Tires-Suspension?

Either way I would get an alignment once you change the tires, as the stock will be way more forgiving than the stickier ones as far as wear is concerned.

yup. that path looks about right.

the reason why i chose to mount the oem tires on the aftermarket (ce28n) rims is because the oem tires are good to learn on for a novice driver such as myself. i just happened to run into a good deal on the rims.