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mashal · 12-30-2012, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RazorHawk

I would think you would want to do exhaust first, as doing a tune later would be better once the exhaust is on, otherwise you may need/want to do another tune after the exhaust.

Just my 2c

Tunes can always be adjusted for exhaust

Foobar · 12-30-2012, 09:35 AM

All of the ECUTek Tuners have stated that they do not change mappings for Exhaust. Only Intakes require tweaking to address AFR.

That being said, you'll get more power out of a tune than an exhaust on our cars. The gains from an exhaust are relatively low compared to other platforms. Same for intakes.

If you're looking for HP, then drop-in filter and tune would be my recommendation. E85 if you have that in your area for the most bang/buck.

If you're looking for sound, then intake/exhaust would be my recommendation.

If you're looking to perform on the twisty track, then tires first, suspension second.

RazorHawk · 12-30-2012, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mashal

Tunes can always be adjusted for exhaust

I would imagine that if you adjust the tune for the exhaust, it will cost an additional amount of money.

I am mainly working off speculation here btw, what you see listed below is pretty much the most I have ever done to a car.

SLOPPYDRFT26 · 12-30-2012, 01:30 PM

you dont need to adjust tune for exhaust and most tuners wouldnt charge extra for minor adjustments anyway.
Tune will not only give you extra power but will eliminate that "torque dip" or "flat spot", if you will, that you probably feel in the mid range. also ecutek has a bunch of other cool features like flat foot shifting, auto-blip downshifting, launch control...etc. so i think this would might make a bigger impact on your daily driving experience. either way gl

Lonewolf · 12-30-2012, 01:46 PM

OP- Where do you live? A muffler delete might get you hassled in certain states (California, Virginia, etc.)

srtblake · 12-30-2012, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ro_Ja

you're*, grammar*

Go for the muffler delete. The car needs a little noise.

I was 3 beers in.

Cameronghanson · 12-30-2012, 02:24 PM

Muffler delete was the first "tune" I did and I love it. Having a good sounding car as a DD is more noticeable than minor speed or suspension mods overall IMO

ScionFrsFan · 12-30-2012, 02:39 PM

New question... Berk or unichip? (Similar price)

Does anyone hate the berk lol? Is it too loud? I had a bad experience with my celica haha that's why I'm scared. I want a NICE sound!

bakerr6 · 12-30-2012, 03:02 PM

Anything but an exhaust, if you're looking for performance. They just do not add anythign to us

MTCRX · 12-30-2012, 03:12 PM

Not to ruin your day but if you are in college you should really save your money for expenses. You already have a nice car, enjoy it. It seems like an eternity away right now, but before you know it you will be out of school and be able to afford many things.

ScionFrsFan · 12-30-2012, 04:42 PM

I think I might go with berk...I just have to many question on the unichip

OrbitalEllipses · 12-30-2012, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTCRX

Not to ruin your day but if you are in college you should really save your money for expenses. You already have a nice car, enjoy it. It seems like an eternity away right now, but before you know it you will be out of school and be able to afford many things.

Which is precisely why I suggest not doing anything beyond a catback. This guy can't really afford an engine popping; great reason to avoid a tune which will void a warranty claim on the engine.

seven · 12-30-2012, 05:31 PM

You'll get more power out of a tune, however your statement about muffler delete not making anything but noise is wrong, they do add 6-8hp.
Dsport did a dyno comparison with the single muffler delete from Berk... it made 8whp

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22727

bcmakesiteasy · 12-31-2012, 11:03 AM

I JUST installed the berk yesterday. It is louder than what I expected, but its really only in the lower gears where its loud. If you're cruisin down the freeway you really cant hear it, and there is no drone. The drone only gets a tad bit loud in the lower gears as i mentioned before. But the install is quick and simple (i'm not a car guy, first time being under a car), and berk sent their product to me quickly. The piece itself looks sweet too

12-30-2012, 02:39 PM	#22
ScionFrsFan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: America Posts: 702 Thanks: 274 Thanked 119 Times in 79 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s)	New question... Berk or unichip? (Similar price) Does anyone hate the berk lol? Is it too loud? I had a bad experience with my celica haha that's why I'm scared. I want a NICE sound! __________________ ScionFrsFan

12-30-2012, 04:42 PM	#25
ScionFrsFan Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: America Posts: 702 Thanks: 274 Thanked 119 Times in 79 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s)	I think I might go with berk...I just have to many question on the unichip __________________ ScionFrsFan

12-30-2012, 05:31 PM	#27
seven Tells it like it is Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: SS1LE \| F150 Diesel \| Civic \| S3 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 823 Thanks: 62 Thanked 279 Times in 122 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s)	You'll get more power out of a tune, however your statement about muffler delete not making anything but noise is wrong, they do add 6-8hp. Dsport did a dyno comparison with the single muffler delete from Berk... it made 8whp http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22727 __________________ -Seven \|\| youtube.com/turnsevenvideo 2012 C6 Grand Sport 4LT 2015 Mazda 3i-T/Tech

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12-30-2012, 01:30 PM	#18
SLOPPYDRFT26 Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 07CivicSI Location: CT Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	you dont need to adjust tune for exhaust and most tuners wouldnt charge extra for minor adjustments anyway. Tune will not only give you extra power but will eliminate that "torque dip" or "flat spot", if you will, that you probably feel in the mid range. also ecutek has a bunch of other cool features like flat foot shifting, auto-blip downshifting, launch control...etc. so i think this would might make a bigger impact on your daily driving experience. either way gl

12-30-2012, 01:46 PM	#19
Lonewolf Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Moped Location: CA Posts: 4,300 Thanks: 4,905 Thanked 2,132 Times in 1,195 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s)	OP- Where do you live? A muffler delete might get you hassled in certain states (California, Virginia, etc.)

12-30-2012, 02:24 PM	#21
Cameronghanson Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: n/a Location: Boston Posts: 558 Thanks: 215 Thanked 126 Times in 94 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s)	Muffler delete was the first "tune" I did and I love it. Having a good sounding car as a DD is more noticeable than minor speed or suspension mods overall IMO

12-30-2012, 03:02 PM	#23
bakerr6 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 raven black fr-s Location: cincinnati, oh Posts: 1,447 Thanks: 503 Thanked 443 Times in 305 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s)	Anything but an exhaust, if you're looking for performance. They just do not add anythign to us

12-30-2012, 03:12 PM	#24
MTCRX Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: Whiteout FRS- autocross ready Location: Montana Posts: 283 Thanks: 136 Thanked 109 Times in 68 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s)	Not to ruin your day but if you are in college you should really save your money for expenses. You already have a nice car, enjoy it. It seems like an eternity away right now, but before you know it you will be out of school and be able to afford many things.

12-31-2012, 11:03 AM	#28
bcmakesiteasy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 FRS Ultramarine Location: Orange County Posts: 181 Thanks: 99 Thanked 19 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s)	I JUST installed the berk yesterday. It is louder than what I expected, but its really only in the lower gears where its loud. If you're cruisin down the freeway you really cant hear it, and there is no drone. The drone only gets a tad bit loud in the lower gears as i mentioned before. But the install is quick and simple (i'm not a car guy, first time being under a car), and berk sent their product to me quickly. The piece itself looks sweet too

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