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Old 12-28-2012, 12:02 AM   #113
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25k? yes! more than 25 k? no! "smart money" value is in the "base"
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I like my BRZ Limited. I feel I got good value or my money.
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Old 12-28-2012, 12:09 AM   #114
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Not owning the car I would say around 26k in this economy is well affordable. With the current inflation being what it is right now I would say its right on par with current income. Especially with the young enthusiast, hell prior kids were buying $33k+ cars no problem, so whats 26k now? Obviously it shows with plenty of people trading in their STI's, EVO's, Mustangs, and celica's.
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Old 12-28-2012, 12:16 AM   #115
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Just to put a bit of perspective on this discussion. The average purchase price for a car in the US is $31,000. The FR-S is around $6K less.

Considering that the "Driving Experience" was the whole point of this car, from the very moment of inception, excluding it in the judgement of the car's value is just stupid. Especially considering that the amount of R&D put into the car's development to achieve this experience needs to be paid for.

Is the FR-S worth $25K? Yes.
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I like my BRZ Limited. I feel I got good value or my money.
that's kewl!
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:34 AM   #116
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If the car were closer to 20k I think it would be a great buy. At 25-30 I start to question the value bc there are a lot of great cars in that price range (whether new or used). The car doesn't have very many options for what you pay, but I get it .... You are buying a great driving machine. Don't get me wrong, I love the car. Just hard to argue the value of it.
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If the car were closer to 20k I think it would be a great buy. At 25-30 I start to question the value bc there are a lot of great cars in that price range (whether new or used). The car doesn't have very many options for what you pay, but I get it .... You are buying a great driving machine. Don't get me wrong, I love the car. Just hard to argue the value of it.
Exactly.
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Old 12-29-2012, 05:05 PM   #118
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If the car were closer to 20k I think it would be a great buy. At 25-30 I start to question the value bc there are a lot of great cars in that price range (whether new or used). The car doesn't have very many options for what you pay, but I get it .... You are buying a great driving machine. Don't get me wrong, I love the car. Just hard to argue the value of it.
Absolutely this.

The base FR-S has all the options I care for, but does not compare with much in its price range. The fact that a car in this price range doesn't come standard with navigation or any other gadgetry is a bit unnerving, but by the same token, I think enthusiasts are drawn to it for this very reason. What we're paying for is the development costs of a unique chassis that is produced in relatively low numbers. Is that really worth a $5k premium? I think the fact that demand for this car remains strong after ~8 months of being on sale answers that question. It'll be interesting to see how sales shift in years to come, after the early adopters have all bought theirs...my guess is many of the manual transmission cars will sit on dealer lots, and you'll be able to pick up a brand new one for $22k. This will be exacerbated by the release of an STi or other hopped up factory version.
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If the car were closer to 20k I think it would be a great buy. At 25-30 I start to question the value bc there are a lot of great cars in that price range (whether new or used). The car doesn't have very many options for what you pay, but I get it .... You are buying a great driving machine. Don't get me wrong, I love the car. Just hard to argue the value of it.
can't say to a certainty,but i'll be willing to bet we are at least paying some
(r&d) money on this car,and this may be the reason why it's 25 k,and not 20 k..just sayin'
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This car is not 25K though. Dears are charging up to 30K.
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Old 12-29-2012, 07:32 PM   #121
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After driving an 89' Corolla GTS for 5 years I'd say my FR-S is worth every damn penny I put into it.

I actually get excited driving to work and back. I actually enjoy just cruising around in my car. I actually enjoy driving in general again. It's not just a chore anymore.
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I actually get excited driving to work and back. I actually enjoy just cruising around in my car. I actually enjoy driving in general again. It's not just a chore anymore.
This exactly....I drove a fully optioned out Nissan Titan before this and I will be happy if I never have to drive that truck again...I love going anywhere and everywhere
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:34 PM   #123
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If the car were closer to 20k I think it would be a great buy. At 25-30 I start to question the value bc there are a lot of great cars in that price range (whether new or used). The car doesn't have very many options for what you pay, but I get it .... You are buying a great driving machine. Don't get me wrong, I love the car. Just hard to argue the value of it.
$20k is a different performance class in my opinion. That's fiesta ST, Sonic RS, Veloster Turbo area.. It isn't much but that $5k gap puts the FRS in its correct class; GTI, Camaro + Mustang 6's, Genesis Coupe Turbo, Focus ST. You're right, it would be a great buy at $22-23k but being that it's the only car of its kind out, the value is absolutely there and right on the money - in terms of driving fun the Cooper S & Miata are the closest competitors and are priced similarly (~$1,500).

And I don't think it fair to bring in used cars to compare on value; apples to oranges. Cayman, S2000, e46 M3, C5 ZO6 & 335i are all superior cars in many ways and can be had for $25k or less. However, buying an unknown history $40-60k (which has $40-60k cost appropriate maintenance) car with miles is much different than buying a brand new Toyota, especially if it's your only car.
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Dears are charging up to 30K.
I hate it when dears charge 30K for a 24K car. Down right dastardly I say!
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Go get you a BMW or something like that. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE MY FR-S. Was it worth the 25900 i paid? 100% Yes! If you don't like it, DON'T buy it. Very simple!

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